Hi Lisa 
While cleaning up my e-mails, I found this.  I hope it will help you.  Maybe
someone else can explain it to you.  I have not learned how to save files
yet.  You can only take it one step at a time.  Thats why my collection of
e-mails about the BN is so big.

Terry Powers



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Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:00 PM
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Subject: [Braillenote] a very helpful message...


The key here is back up, back up back up.  I have a 5 GB card and I back up 
on a daily basis.  the reason for me is that I am adding addresses, planned 
meetings etc on a daily basis.

Well written message from the sender.

Franklin

At 02:17 PM 11/26/03 +0800, you wrote:
>Laura,
>
>This is what happened to your backups: the contents of the file on the 
>Flash Disk were wiped out before you did a backup, and because you could 
>only do backups while you're outside the file, you were not aware that the 
>file was already blank or corrupted.
>
>What should be done with the BrailleNote?: Hurl it to the street below 
>from a 10-story window.  Just kidding! You can send it to the Philippines 
>if you want because there's a kid I'm helping here who needs a 
>notetaker.  OK, what's the right way of making backups?
>
>1) Someone advised using the Copy File option in the File Manager instead 
>of the Backup Option in the Utilities Menu.  I wouldn't recommend that for 
>ALL files, maybe just some, but not all, especially the databases.  That's 
>how I lost my copy of an 8.13 MB e-mail DB.
>You would think that the file is being copied successfully.  You would 
>even be asked about replacing an old DB copy.  But when you need to load 
>it back into your unit, it's gone...  not just the contents, but the file 
>itself.  The Backup Option hasn't done that to my knowledge.
>
>2) I'm sorry I did not reply to your post earlier.  I should've corrected, 
>or at least added something to, the advise to do multiple backups.  Notice 
>that the reason why you've lost three months worth of work on that file is 
>because you do not have old backups lying around.  The right thing to do 
>is to retain complete, not corrupted, backups during certain times.  This 
>would depend on how much storage space you have.
>For example, you should not just have one backup folder on your cf 
>card.  I have a backup folder for November, for October, for September, so 
>on and so forth.  You could have weekly folders if you want.  They do not 
>contain the same stuff because I move to a different storage those I won't 
>be needing anymore in a different month, and files in the newer folders 
>are longer (more updated) than those with the same file names in older 
>folders.  Thus, if I lose a file saved in the November folder but was 
>originally created in July, I don't lose data from July to November, but 
>just for November.  The shock of losing data in this case is more 
>tolerable (though still not completely forgivable).
>
>3) Since you already have learned (though learned it not from this list, 
>but the hard way - from experience) that relying on backups made on to cf 
>cards using your BrailleNote will inevitably corrupt data, if and when you 
>have your own computer running a respectable screen-reader, save or 
>transfer to it copies of all important files (databases, lecture notes, 
>planner or lists of appointments and phone numbers, etc., meaning, you 
>don't need to include those that you can download from the internet again, 
>or are just your "scratch" files, and the default BN files such as the DB 
>definition files, Readme texts, and Dictionary files).
>Remember, using Active sync as some have suggested can also give you data 
>loss problems because it had been mentioned here before that large files 
>(the minimum problem size is unknown) likewise get truncated during file 
>transfer.  Thus, as I have suggested many times to you off list, get a 
>PCMCIA Type II adapter for ease of file transfer from BrailleNote to your 
>laptop.  If you're family is getting a desktop, then get your own card 
>reader if you cannot take home the one you use in school.  Neither the 
>PCMCIA adapter nor the card reader would cost more than 30 dollars, so 
>getting one or both shouldn't be a problem for you.
>You can keep the Keyword files in their format when you save them in the 
>computer, but I would suggest, if you're not feeling lazy, that you 
>convert the lecture notes (or those you use on a daily basis) to another 
>format as well that is readable on the computer (say, .txt or .rtf) and 
>save both the Keyword and non-Keyword copies of the important files, just 
>in case you follow my suggestion above of throwing your BrailleNote out 
>the window, <laugh>.  BTW, I use two cf cards for this purpose.  One 
>contains the backups accessed through the BrailleNote.  The other contains 
>the files that are to be transferred to the computer, which in your case, 
>I suggest that you check the size once on the laptop and if it does not 
>correspond (say it's 0 or a smaller number than the original size), then 
>you can be sure it's corrupted and must be replaced with the complete one.
>
>4) Though no one would confirm this to be true, I still think you need to 
>get 48 MB on-board memory.  I have much longer files for my notes in 
>graduate school, containing not just my notes in class for the five months 
>of a semester, but also researches from the net and solutions and proofs 
>from four different math books, that the files reach a size over 4 MB, 
>with extensions such as .kwb, .kwt, .rtf and .doc, but I have never lost 
>data in any of these large files.  You know for a fact that the only files 
>I've lost or got corrupted are the databases, but if you can take my word 
>for it, though I save copies of all important files in my laptop since I 
>got it, I have had no need to load them back to my BN yet.
>People can call my insistence on the link between data loss and the 16 MB 
>memory pure speculation, but they could never explain why I haven't had 
>problems with large files getting truncated or wiped out.  A few say their 
>units have 48 MB memory and have lost data, but I think that's already due 
>to mishandling of files (e.g., not giving the BrailleNote enough time to 
>finish its "house-cleaning" tasks when saving, exiting, opening, copying 
>and moving files, by turning off the unit or pressing RESET or pulling out 
>the cf/storage card too soon), which would explain why only few of these 
>48 MB memory users report losing data.
>
>Speaking of house-cleaning matters, the word "disbelief" is written NOT 
>with the "letters" b e contracted as dots 2-3 (see your original subject 
>line) because using that lower sign in the middle of a word is to contract 
>the letters bb.  This is true for grade 2 Braille, not just Duxbury on the 
>BrailleNote.  But as for DBT on the BN, I think I've told you this 
>already, you cannot use one- and two-cell contractions before an ellipsis, 
>and that you must spell them out; otherwise, they are mistranslated as the 
>letters comprising the contraction (see your message below).
>
>HTH,
>Roselle
>
> >----- QUOTED MESSAGE -----
> >Sent by: Laura Wolk <"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"@smtp.enter.net
>
> >Oh Kellie, I sure hope you don't have some sort of vendetta against me, 
> because you will not believe what has happened.  Obviously, because I
can't my.
>
> >After my data loss yesterday, I did what any good user would do, and 
> backed up my data, not once, but twice.  B...  everything, absolutely 
> EVERYTHING, is gone from three files.  Not just on my flash disk, but in 
> both my backups as well.  This time it's not just missing information, 
> absolutely blank documents.  I think I'm in shock actually because it's 
> inconceivable for me to realize that three months worth of work, energy, 
> time...  is just gone, from three subjects.  J...' poof! I, well, I guess 
> I know what I'll be doing this weekend, either begging, pleading, 
> groveling, bribing friends to send me their notes or going through the 
> whole thing myself and doing it.  Laura
>
>
>
>
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Franklin Johnson
National Training Consultant on Assistive Technology for the Blind
Rehabilitation Research & Training Center on Blindness
Mississippi State University
(662) 325-7831
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