You're right.  We weren't born with this knowledge.  I try my best to answer a 
question when I think I can help.
I hope my name isn't blocked out.
Still, is it wrong to ask that someone say it either worked or didn't work for 
him?


Brenda Mueller


> ----- Original Message -----
>From: sammie clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:19:45 -0500
>Subject: re: [Braillenote] An observation

>Thank you Bob.
>   I think your message is list related and people should pay attention to 
> what you are saying here.  Because of snide condescending replies, there are 
> some people on this list that I have chosen not to learn from.  Their replies 
> to questions have been so nasty that whenever I see their names, I delete.
>   I believe that everybody on this list is here to learn something, even 
> those of you who were present at the BN's conception; therefore, if you 
> answer a question, you should address the question in a friendly, 
> knowledgable manner.  Please consider when you reply that many of us don't 
> have your expertise and want your advise without insults.  Try to answer 
> questions with humor, if you wish, mindful of the fact that your humor is not 
> the same as everybonys. .  Remember those of you who may think the questions 
> of others are stupid, that you were once a beginner with a new instrument in 
> your hand.

>Sammie Clay



>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: bob mates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 04:46:17 -0400 (EDT)
>>Subject: [Braillenote] An observation

>>Hi, folks:
>>Let me say, at the start, that this message contains no BN or VN info or 
>>inquiries.  If that is a problem quite you, not need only delete this 
>>message, and your problem just be solved.
>>This message is, however, list-related, so I have no qualms about writing it. 
>> It is written without rancor op kalice, and will, I hope, be read in the 
>>same way.
>>It has been a troubling athing to observe that, when people are replying to 
>>others on the list, either because they disagree, or are correcting 
>>something, (or think they are) that their replies tend to be written in a 
>>tone that snaps at the other person.  I have also read answers, given in a 
>>very condescending manner.
>>Folks, this is an email list.  It is a list, on which information is 
>>exchanged.  We're all either users of the products, or potential users.  Each 
>>of us has his or her own writing style, as well as his or her level of 
>>expertise with the product.  I dare say, each of us also had to learn to use 
>>the product the hard way, making all of the mistakes.  Also, each out us is 
>>an imperfect (sinful, if you will) human being, prone to make errors in 
>>writing or phrasing.
>>Now, I'm not suggesting that people should not be corrected; I am suggesting, 
>>however, that there are many wans to correct.  One may correct a person with 
>>harsh words, or with gentle ones.  I have found, in my years in the ministry, 
>>that it's a lot easier to get a person to listen to you, if you say it with a 
>>smile.  As it says, in Proverbs: "A gentle word turneth away wrath.".
>>This list has been invaluable to me.  I can't tell you how much I've learned 
>>from it.  However, I get deeply disturbed by the lack of civility, which I 
>>sometimes see.  All you have to do to correct it is simply think, before you 
>>write.  Ask yourself if you'd like someone to talk to you, the way you're 
>>about to talk to this fellow-lister.  We're all in the same boat, folks.
>>I've often been troubled by the fact that people say things to each other, 
>>via email, in a way that they'd never do on the phone, or to that person's 
>>face.  We can change that, and bring politeness and civility back.  It will 
>>certainly make this list more pleasant to read.  I thank you for reading 
>>this.  Have a great day.  God bless.  Bob and Maxy-wax


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