Dear Richard

All the best of luck with your application.  I sure hope you get it.  You'll be 
in my thoughts and prayers.

God bless!

Michele


> ----- Original Message -----
>From: richard Van Driel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:47:18 +1200
>Subject: re: [Braillenote] PK pricing.

>I know exactly where you are coming from Michelle.
>I would like to see something happen to help people pay for assistive 
>technology.
>We here in the us do have agencies that will pay for assistive technologies, 
>but the trouble is that you have to qualify for these and it's not only 
>blindness.
>For me, I am unemployed and eligible for the Independent Living Center's 
>assistive technology fund.
>But this fund isn't very big.
>It's a grant that comes to them every year in July, and from that they must 
>meet all the assistive technology needs for that year.
>I have applied to get a pk, all we need now is the official documentation as 
>to cost etc.
>I have all my forms filled out and now it's up to the center for the blind and 
>someforth.
>I do wish prices could come down a bit without affecting quality though.
>Every little thing would help.

>Richard

>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Michele Thredgold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>>Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:24:24 +1000
>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] PK pricing.

>>Dear Don and List

>>As an Australian, I find the same problem here and I empathise with your 
>>predicament Don.  I have just bought a BrailleNote and although I got it a 
>>little cheaper because it was a model which had been used by Pulse Data at 
>>functions, it was still over $7'000 Australian because I also got the Sma 
>>with it and the German language software.

>>I had to wait years before I could get one, simply because I could not find 
>>the resources.  I tried to save but I ask you, how much can you save but a 
>>blind pension when you live on your own and have living expenses? I had to 
>>apply for trusts and such and put any money I received from singing jobs 
>>towards it.  In the end, it was the generosity of family and friends which 
>>saw me over the final hump, as well as the funds from small grants.


>>Now my point is this.  Considering that this technology costs so much, we are 
>>not given sufficient support, at least in Oz, by the government to assist us 
>>with these things.  As Don pointed out, sighted people can buy a PC for less. 
>> They can even buy a car for less, if they go second-hand.  THEY can 
>>definitely buy PDA's for less, including person organizers.

>>I understand the need for high pricing when our machines are of such good 
>>quality, but there are no deals in place to help us pay for these things.  
>>Many of us, who would jump at the chance of buying a PK, can't look at the 
>>possibility for years because we just don't have that kind of money.

>>I don't really know what the answer is, except that PDA recognize this is a 
>>problem and consider hire purchase options, unless they want to liaise with 
>>the government of those countries which currently don't support technology 
>>requirements.  I know that in Germany, blind people are provided with all 
>>their technology needs free of charge.  I'd be happy paying half if the 
>>government could subsidize the rest, but these exorbitant prices are more 
>>than most of us can handle who don't have a steady income, especially us 
>>students, and yet these machines have made such a difference in our lives.

>>For any sighted members of Pdi's many finance departments, please remember: a 
>>pen and paper costs under $10.  Even taking away the extra electronic 
>>facilities like email, internet access and the mp3 player, how much does a 
>>BrailleNote cost in comparison?

>>Well, soffry if I've offended anybody with my whinge but it's been a 
>>long-standing bee in my bonnet.  Hope you're not all bored to tears by this 
>>long-winded email (grin)

>>Cheers!

>>Michele
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: Contribute Braillenote <[email protected]
>>>Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:20:33 +1200
>>>Subject: [Braillenote] PK pricing.

>>>Hello Fellow Listers, I have recently returned from the Sight Village 
>>>exhibition in Birmingham, England.  While there I inspected the new PK 
>>>machine and found its performance and potential very impressive; I visualize 
>>>the possibility of owning one in the future.  However, I was extremely 
>>>disappointed with the price to us in Europe.  A winge perhaps, but I would 
>>>ask that those living elsewhere, especially in the States, should try to put 
>>>themselves in our place and endeavour to appreciate how we feel.  Before I 
>>>went to Birmingham, I had only the price in the States to go by, as revealed 
>>>by Jonathan on this list, that being 4995 US dollars.  To give myself some 
>>>idea as to what that would be in pounds, I telephoned my bank and was told 
>>>that the current exchange rate was 1,77  dollars to the pound.  Though some 
>>>have criticized the calculator on the Braillenote, I trust its conclusion 
>>>that 4995 divided by 1,77 equals 2822 pounds.  Imagine my feelings when I 
>>>was told that, as I!
 l!
>>ived in Europe, it was going to cost me 3595 pounds.  In other words we in 
>>Europe will pay an extra 773 pounds; or, expressed in dollars, an extra 1368. 
>> Though I  do not expect exact and precise parity in price across 
>>international boundaries, but surely there should be some price relevance.  
>>If, for example, you lived in California, you would not expect to pay more 
>>than someone living in Boston; yet I am probably as near Boston as you are.  
>>There may be special circumstances which affect these prices and I invited a 
>>member of PDI Europe to reply.  So far no one has contacted me.  I would, 
>>even at this date, ask PDI to re-consider their pricing policy and give us in 
>>Europe a fair deal.  I suppose that, while visiting the States I could always 
>>purchase a machine, or purchase through an agent, but surely this would not 
>>be desirable for all sorts of reasons, but 773 pounds is one pile of extra 
>>cash to find.  as a fellow braillenote user pointed out: "a sighted person 
>>could b!
uy!
>> a whole PC for that sum." I would naturally welcome any comments, especially 
>> from PDI, who, I feel, may have some extenuating reasons for this excessive 
>> price difference.
>>>Don Cooper.


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