On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:


> In regards to freezing, do you notice any drop in flavor over time?  I
> know this has been debated many times on other coffee boards, but
> curious if you have noticed anything?


No, I don't notice any drop in flavor over time as long as I follow a couple
of simple procedures. Vivace ships in half pound bags. When I get 'em,
they've had a couple of days to de-gas. I push all of the air/gas out of the
bag and then put a little piece of tape over the air-hole in the side of the
bag before freezing them. When I pull them out of the freezer for use, I let
them thaw completely in the same bag without opening it or otherwise letting
any air get in. Only after they're thawed fully do I open the bag. Ten
pounds usually lasts me 2-3 months, depending on the time of year and
whether my kids are home or off at school. In that amount of time, no
difference between the first bag and the last one I open.

I'd think about a subscription service, but my usage is too inconsistent.
Sometimes we go through a lot, sometimes we go through it pretty slowly. The
other advantage of buying a LOT is that each batch can be a little bit
different, but each bag within a batch tends to be very consistent, since
they were all roasted together. So once I get the temp dialed in on a new
batch, I don't have to mess around with anything except grind for quite a
while.  I had one batch of Dolce that was best at 95, for example, but most
seem to be best at 96. Also, the shipping charges aren't that much more for
ten pounds than for two, so shipping bigger volumes less often is cheaper.

Depending on where you're located in PA, there's a great shop in north
Philly on Chestnut Hill called, appropriately enough, Chestnut Hill Coffee,
that roasts their own espresso blend. Their roaster and head barista is a
very well-known Seattle transplant named John Hornall. He's only become a
roaster over the past couple of years, but is getting it down. I've bought a
few bags of their espresso blend and liked it. No as much as Dolce, but
about as much as Black Cat. Its not an overly dark roast. It's really
awesome when they make the shots, but I still get better results with Dolce.
I still tend to buy mail order because they're a half hour drive and I don't
get in there often. But if you're in Philly, its a quick ride up the R-8 and
they're about two blocks away. Worth checking out anyway.

-Ray

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