that's a pretty tricky way to kill two birds with one stone!  i share the
clothes washer drainpipe, so i am lucky enuf to have plumbed drain and my
opv water goes into the same drain. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Bruce Keeler
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Boiler Descaling

Ooh, I like this idea!

Though my brewtus already caters to the dog's needs.  My problem was 
that due to where the Brewtus sits, I can't plumb the drip pan into a 
drain, and it fills up too quickly if the OPV output goes there.  So I 
attached a long vinyl line to the OPV, out of the bottom of the machine 
and over to the dog bowl.  I have to empty that every few days too, but 
at least it's much larger than the drip tray--he drinks out of an old 
salad spinner bowl that got warped in the dishwasher.  He still prefers 
to drink out of muddy puddles when he can though.

On 3/21/11 2:01 PM, Dennis wrote:
> ya, now i leave the vinyl hose attached to the valve and use it to
dispense
> cold filtered water for me and my dog and my house plants!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Benjamin McCafferty
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 2:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Boiler Descaling
>
> Cool idea.  My next project when I have a minute.  Ha!
> b
> On Mar 21, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Dennis wrote:
>
>> hello,   i use food grade usp citric acid.  get it at a home brew supply
>> store cheap for about $4 a pound. on my setup, i included an additional
> tee
>> in the mains input line after my filters and regulator, but before the
> pump
>> and motor.  then i used a 3/8" ball valve with some 3/8" vinyl hose
>> attached.  i mixed th solution in a gal container and insert the hose.
use
>> the valves to stop your mains and allow the tee'd in hose  otherwis,
>> disconnect the mains when you descale and reconnect. - Dennis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf
>> Of Benjamin McCafferty
>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:40 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Boiler Descaling
>>
>> Search the archives on this, and you'll find a lot of threads on the
> topic.
>> Most use citric acid.  I hadn't thought about the plumbing issue, since
> I've
>> just plumbed mine also.  Couldn't you just mix up a batch, disconnect
your
>> plumbed line and put it into the batch to draw it in, then reconnect to
>> house water?
>>
>> As to process, I'd probably put the line in the citric solution, then run
>> the steam boiler out the hot water wand, let it reheat, and do it again.
>> That should get 3/4 or more of the water exchanged for the citric
> solution.
>> For the brew boiler, I'd just turn on the lever and let it run for a
> while,
>> i.e. maybe catch a quart of runoff and then you'd know you had the citric
> in
>> there.
>>
>> I'd recommend then shutting the machine off, and prop it up for several
>> hours (or more) in each direction, i.e. tip to the right, the left, to
the
>> rear, to the front and let it soak--this will help capture the water line
>> scale.
>>
>> Be prepared that you'll need to flush a lot of water through to get rid
of
>> all the blue water and acidic taste.
>>
>> b
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:26 AM, wiseguy wrote:
>>
>>> I have a BII that is a few years old. The boilers have never been
>>> descaled but it brews great shots. My Q: should I descale? If so, I
>>> could use some suggestions for cleaning agents and how to get the
>>> descaling soln into the boilers as I've plumbed the supply side.
>>> Many thanks,
>>> wiseguy
>>>
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