Copy that, makes sense. Dennis has gotta drink espresso; dog's gotta drink water. :) bmc On Mar 23, 2011, at 6:54 AM, Dennis wrote:
> that's a good point, Ben, so far i don't think my opv has been acivated > ever! the vinyl hose that leads to the drain pipe never looks wet inside. > it should be a backup so your boilers expansion from heating up. i am > useing a Swagelok relief valve to replace the stock unit everyone has > problems with, but the newer Brewtus's have good opv's. my machine was one > of the first sold.- Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Benjamin McCafferty > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Boiler Descaling > > Hey Bruce, > Just re-read your post, and something occurred to me. Do you use a rotary > (plumbed in) pump, or a vibe pump with reservoir? If it's a vibe, the drip > tray holds more than the reservoir, but I'm guessing you have a rotary. You > said, "...it fills up too quickly if the OPV output goes there"--which leads > me to wonder if your pump is setup correctly. I just learned a few days ago > that it uses a different paradigm than the vibe pump, and if properly set, > it shouldn't drain anything out of the OPV under normal circumstances, > right? > > I'm not totally sure on this--but the new directions from Todd last week had > me set the OPV to 11 bar, and the pump to 9 bar (or preference). When not > in use, the system routinely gets up to 10 bar, but so far doesn't get to 11 > and therefore hasn't opened the OPV at all that I can tell. ??? I wonder > if bumping your OPV up would solve your dog bowl problem, i.e. overfilling. > > b > > > On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Dennis wrote: > >> that's a pretty tricky way to kill two birds with one stone! i share the >> clothes washer drainpipe, so i am lucky enuf to have plumbed drain and my >> opv water goes into the same drain. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Bruce Keeler >> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:51 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Boiler Descaling >> >> Ooh, I like this idea! >> >> Though my brewtus already caters to the dog's needs. My problem was >> that due to where the Brewtus sits, I can't plumb the drip pan into a >> drain, and it fills up too quickly if the OPV output goes there. So I >> attached a long vinyl line to the OPV, out of the bottom of the machine >> and over to the dog bowl. I have to empty that every few days too, but >> at least it's much larger than the drip tray--he drinks out of an old >> salad spinner bowl that got warped in the dishwasher. He still prefers >> to drink out of muddy puddles when he can though. >> >> On 3/21/11 2:01 PM, Dennis wrote: >>> ya, now i leave the vinyl hose attached to the valve and use it to >> dispense >>> cold filtered water for me and my dog and my house plants! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf >>> Of Benjamin McCafferty >>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 2:51 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Boiler Descaling >>> >>> Cool idea. My next project when I have a minute. Ha! >>> b >>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Dennis wrote: >>> >>>> hello, i use food grade usp citric acid. get it at a home brew supply >>>> store cheap for about $4 a pound. on my setup, i included an additional >>> tee >>>> in the mains input line after my filters and regulator, but before the >>> pump >>>> and motor. then i used a 3/8" ball valve with some 3/8" vinyl hose >>>> attached. i mixed th solution in a gal container and insert the hose. >> use >>>> the valves to stop your mains and allow the tee'd in hose otherwis, >>>> disconnect the mains when you descale and reconnect. - Dennis >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >>>> Of Benjamin McCafferty >>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:40 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Boiler Descaling >>>> >>>> Search the archives on this, and you'll find a lot of threads on the >>> topic. >>>> Most use citric acid. I hadn't thought about the plumbing issue, since >>> I've >>>> just plumbed mine also. Couldn't you just mix up a batch, disconnect >> your >>>> plumbed line and put it into the batch to draw it in, then reconnect to >>>> house water? >>>> >>>> As to process, I'd probably put the line in the citric solution, then > run >>>> the steam boiler out the hot water wand, let it reheat, and do it again. >>>> That should get 3/4 or more of the water exchanged for the citric >>> solution. >>>> For the brew boiler, I'd just turn on the lever and let it run for a >>> while, >>>> i.e. maybe catch a quart of runoff and then you'd know you had the > citric >>> in >>>> there. >>>> >>>> I'd recommend then shutting the machine off, and prop it up for several >>>> hours (or more) in each direction, i.e. tip to the right, the left, to >> the >>>> rear, to the front and let it soak--this will help capture the water > line >>>> scale. >>>> >>>> Be prepared that you'll need to flush a lot of water through to get rid >> of >>>> all the blue water and acidic taste. >>>> >>>> b >>>> >>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:26 AM, wiseguy wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a BII that is a few years old. The boilers have never been >>>>> descaled but it brews great shots. My Q: should I descale? If so, I >>>>> could use some suggestions for cleaning agents and how to get the >>>>> descaling soln into the boilers as I've plumbed the supply side. >>>>> Many thanks, >>>>> wiseguy >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >>>> "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en. >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups >>>> "Brewtus" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups >>> "Brewtus" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Brewtus" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. 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