Thanks for this reply!  Very kind of you.  What you are saying makes 
sense.  I need to get a multimeter to try that part of what you said.

In the meantime, I looked for a reset button on both boilers and did not 
see anything that looks the part.  Can you describe anything further about 
what I should be looking for?  I'm wondering if the Brewtus I did not have 
that feature, but I'd sure be glad if it does.

Thanks again for your suggestions.

Marcus



On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:44:16 PM UTC-5, winnipegger65 wrote:
>
> Hi Marcus,
>
> I see you posted this a while ago so perhaps you've already got this 
> figured out. I'm reading your note and it sounds similar to a problem I had 
> on my Brewtus IV-R a while ago. I thought it was either the temperature 
> sensor or the PID and I replaced them both. That did not help. With me, the 
> problem seemed to 'fix itself' which would have been great *before* I spend 
> the money on the new parts. 
> I'm wondering if your problem could be simply the reset button on your 
> brew boiler. Both boilers have a small button or peg which can get tripped 
> to prevent over heating. Perhaps pushing that peg is all you need to do.
>
> The other thing to consider is if your brew boiler is getting power. That 
> is easier than you think to check. All you need is a multimeter. Pull off 
> the leads which go to the brew boiler and stick the probes of your 
> multimeter into those leads. Then turn on your Brewtus and see if power is 
> getting there. If power is indeed getting there, then the problem might be 
> a faulty heater. That would make sense if power is getting to the brew  
> boiler but it is not heating. That's as far as I got with my problems but 
> when I put the leads back on the brew boiler, everything magically started 
> working again. Nice!
>
> On Saturday, March 9, 2013 11:35:29 AM UTC-6, Marcus Mininger wrote:
>>
>> I have a Brewtus 1 that I bought second hand.  Have used it for a couple 
>> years with good service.  A couple months ago when I was cleaning it 
>> (backflushing w/ detergent, etc.), the temperature readout for the water 
>> boiler started slowly dropping, a degree or so each minute or so (from 93C 
>> to 92 to 91, etc.).  I ran some more water through and tried backflushing 
>> with only water to rinse any extra detergent, in case what I had been doing 
>> (which was standard procedure that I have always done) was causing a 
>> problem.  Any water I ran or backflushed would only cause the temp to drop 
>> more quickly.  It appeared that the water in that boiler was no longer 
>> heating.  However, two things stayed normal:  (a) the light on the PID 
>> read-out for the water boiler was on where it indicates that that boiler is 
>> heating, and (b) the steam boiler pressure stayed at normal levels, cycling 
>> on and off as needed, and even when I opened up the steam wand for a full 
>> minute, it held good pressure and output the whole way.  Evidently, the 
>> steam boiler was working fine while the PID was telling the water boiler to 
>> work but it was not heating.  I tried shutting off and turning back on to 
>> reset the electronics w/ the PID readout, etc., but this didn't change 
>> anything.  Eventually, I finished the standard cleaning/rinsing process as 
>> best I could (with diminishing temperatures) and turned it off for the 
>> day.  
>>
>> A day later I powered the machine back on from cold to let it heat up, 
>> and the temp of the water boiler did not rise but the steam boiler came up 
>> to normal pressure.  Then I tried pulling some water through the group head 
>> by activating the pump.  This caused the water boiler temp to increase by a 
>> degree or 2 each time until it had come up 10 degrees or so.  However, it 
>> was obviously not fixing the basic problem and the water boiler was still 
>> nowhere near the needed temp.  My guess is that pulling water out of the 
>> water boiler probably just resulted in pulling some water from the steam 
>> boiler into the water boiler, thereby raising the water boiler temp 
>> "artificially" somewhat.  I left the machine on for several hours, but the 
>> water boiler never increased any more on its own.
>>
>> At that point, I wasn't sure what to try further to be of any help, so I 
>> powered it off.  Work has been very busy for me since, so the machine has 
>> just sat there for a couple of months since then, and I am not mechanically 
>> inclined enough to know how to troubleshoot the problem.
>>
>> Today I powered the machine on just to see, and the same thing happened:  
>> water temp did not rise at all, but steam pressure is up to normal.
>>
>> What should do to identify and fix this problem?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Macus
>>
>

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