Hi Marcus,

I'm glad things got better for you. It's too bad that it took a while
but at least you're back to pulling shots.

You mentioned the only problem ended up being a tripped reset button.
That can get tripped when the pressure gets too high. This acts as a
safety feature so things don't blow up. Both the steam boiler and the
brew boiler have such a reset button.

You also asked what would cause this to trip in the first place. Good
question.

I don't really know but that's never stopped me from giving an
opinion.

I think it is like a circuit breaker in your house in that they can
sometimes get tripped. Most time, you reset them and everthing is
fine. I would think if it becomes a chronic problem, then you've got a
problem. If that happens, perhaps there is a failure in the shut off
of the heating element which causes the boiler to just keep heating.

At this point I would not worry about it but that's just me.

On Jun 5, 9:29 am, Marcus Mininger <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, I am amazed!  After looking at the diagram you sent, I looked at the
> boiler again and did find the reset button--tiny thing!  I pushed it, and
> it is now working!  I had no idea.
>
> Thank you very much for rescuing my post from obscurity and responding.
> Very kind of you.  My wife and I are very grateful to be having espresso
> again!
>
> Now this leaves me with the question:  what is likely to have been the
> cause of the reset tripping, and should I be doing anything
> maintenance-wise b/c of it or to keep it from happening again?
>
> Thanks again,
> Marcus
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 3, 2013 8:57:06 AM UTC-5, winnipegger65 wrote:
>
> > Marcus,
>
> > Here is yet another source of info that may be useful for you.
> >http://www.bellabarista.co.uk/pdf/ExpobarBrewtusIIcloserlookv6.pdf
>
> > On Monday, June 3, 2013 8:51:40 AM UTC-5, winnipegger65 wrote:
>
> >> Marcus,
>
> >> I posted another thread that showed a nice labelled diagram of the
> >> Brewtus boilers. That diagram came from the WLL website. Here is what is
> >> said above that picture in the website:
>
> >> *Safety's and Valves *
> >> The Brewtus III machines have all the safety and control valves that you
> >> will want. Each boiler has a manual reset thermal shut off. If one of the
> >> boilers overheats, the boiler will shut down, thus preventing damage.
>
> >> Here is a link to that WLL site:
> >>http://www.wholelattelove.com/articles/spotlight_brewtus3.cfm
>
> >> I see though that you have a Brewtus I and this article from WLL refers
> >> to a Brewtus III. I have a Brewtus IV which is very similar to the III. I
> >> would suggest you have a look at the link from WLL and see if this makes
> >> any sense.
>
> >> Perhaps you can even contact WLL but I don't know if that's practical for
> >> you.
>
> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:17:22 PM UTC-5, Marcus Mininger wrote:
>
> >>> Thanks for this reply!  Very kind of you.  What you are saying makes
> >>> sense.  I need to get a multimeter to try that part of what you said.
>
> >>> In the meantime, I looked for a reset button on both boilers and did not
> >>> see anything that looks the part.  Can you describe anything further about
> >>> what I should be looking for?  I'm wondering if the Brewtus I did not have
> >>> that feature, but I'd sure be glad if it does.
>
> >>> Thanks again for your suggestions.
>
> >>> Marcus
>
> >>> On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:44:16 PM UTC-5, winnipegger65 wrote:
>
> >>>> Hi Marcus,
>
> >>>> I see you posted this a while ago so perhaps you've already got this
> >>>> figured out. I'm reading your note and it sounds similar to a problem I 
> >>>> had
> >>>> on my Brewtus IV-R a while ago. I thought it was either the temperature
> >>>> sensor or the PID and I replaced them both. That did not help. With me, 
> >>>> the
> >>>> problem seemed to 'fix itself' which would have been great *before* I 
> >>>> spend
> >>>> the money on the new parts.
> >>>> I'm wondering if your problem could be simply the reset button on your
> >>>> brew boiler. Both boilers have a small button or peg which can get 
> >>>> tripped
> >>>> to prevent over heating. Perhaps pushing that peg is all you need to do.
>
> >>>> The other thing to consider is if your brew boiler is getting power.
> >>>> That is easier than you think to check. All you need is a multimeter. 
> >>>> Pull
> >>>> off the leads which go to the brew boiler and stick the probes of your
> >>>> multimeter into those leads. Then turn on your Brewtus and see if power 
> >>>> is
> >>>> getting there. If power is indeed getting there, then the problem might 
> >>>> be
> >>>> a faulty heater. That would make sense if power is getting to the brew
> >>>> boiler but it is not heating. That's as far as I got with my problems but
> >>>> when I put the leads back on the brew boiler, everything magically 
> >>>> started
> >>>> working again. Nice!
>
> >>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2013 11:35:29 AM UTC-6, Marcus Mininger wrote:
>
> >>>>> I have a Brewtus 1 that I bought second hand.  Have used it for a
> >>>>> couple years with good service.  A couple months ago when I was 
> >>>>> cleaning it
> >>>>> (backflushing w/ detergent, etc.), the temperature readout for the water
> >>>>> boiler started slowly dropping, a degree or so each minute or so (from 
> >>>>> 93C
> >>>>> to 92 to 91, etc.).  I ran some more water through and tried 
> >>>>> backflushing
> >>>>> with only water to rinse any extra detergent, in case what I had been 
> >>>>> doing
> >>>>> (which was standard procedure that I have always done) was causing a
> >>>>> problem.  Any water I ran or backflushed would only cause the temp to 
> >>>>> drop
> >>>>> more quickly.  It appeared that the water in that boiler was no longer
> >>>>> heating.  However, two things stayed normal:  (a) the light on the PID
> >>>>> read-out for the water boiler was on where it indicates that that 
> >>>>> boiler is
> >>>>> heating, and (b) the steam boiler pressure stayed at normal levels, 
> >>>>> cycling
> >>>>> on and off as needed, and even when I opened up the steam wand for a 
> >>>>> full
> >>>>> minute, it held good pressure and output the whole way.  Evidently, the
> >>>>> steam boiler was working fine while the PID was telling the water 
> >>>>> boiler to
> >>>>> work but it was not heating.  I tried shutting off and turning back on 
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> reset the electronics w/ the PID readout, etc., but this didn't change
> >>>>> anything.  Eventually, I finished the standard cleaning/rinsing process 
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> best I could (with diminishing temperatures) and turned it off for the
> >>>>> day.
>
> >>>>> A day later I powered the machine back on from cold to let it heat up,
> >>>>> and the temp of the water boiler did not rise but the steam boiler came 
> >>>>> up
> >>>>> to normal pressure.  Then I tried pulling some water through the group 
> >>>>> head
> >>>>> by activating the pump.  This caused the water boiler temp to increase 
> >>>>> by a
> >>>>> degree or 2 each time until it had come up 10 degrees or so.  However, 
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> was obviously not fixing the basic problem and the water boiler was 
> >>>>> still
> >>>>> nowhere near the needed temp.  My guess is that pulling water out of the
> >>>>> water boiler probably just resulted in pulling some water from the steam
> >>>>> boiler into the water boiler, thereby raising the water boiler temp
> >>>>> "artificially" somewhat.  I left the machine on for several hours, but 
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> water boiler never increased any more on its own.
>
> >>>>> At that point, I wasn't sure what to try further to be of any help, so
> >>>>> I powered it off.  Work has been very busy for me since, so the machine 
> >>>>> has
> >>>>> just sat there for a couple of months since then, and I am not 
> >>>>> mechanically
> >>>>> inclined enough to know how to troubleshoot the problem.
>
> >>>>> Today I powered the machine on just to see, and the same thing
> >>>>> happened:  water temp did not rise at all, but steam pressure is up to
> >>>>> normal.
>
> >>>>> What should do to identify and fix this problem?
>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Macus- Hide quoted text -
>
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