Thanks for the honest opinion. 

Actually I don't plan on plumping in the Brewtus as I stay in a rented 
apartment that doesn't allow me to do such stuff. 
Is the vibratory pump okay? 



On Friday, January 17, 2014 10:08:20 PM UTC+8, wsmckenz wrote:
>
> I will point out that having the electronics close to the heat has proven 
> a problem for me. It cooked my original temp controller and I had to 
> replace with the gicar PID, after about 4 years of service. I've also 
> replaced the pump, the water feed from steam to the brew boiler (i put in 
> copper, so I wouldn't have to do it again) and one OPV. I have a II, not a 
> IV and they may have improved some of these things. My daughter got a BIV 
> about 6 months ago and she's had no problems, but that is not a very long 
> time frame. 
>
> I've been pretty happy with mine from a coffee-making perspective, *but *I 
> would say that if you get any of the 3 you are looking at, you will 
> probably be doing more maintenance and repairs that your did with your 
> Silvia. It's just a fact of life with these high end machines. I had a 
> Rancillio Miss Nancy for 15 years and never touched anything but the group 
> head gasket; My Brewtus repairs have been well over a $1000 in parts over 
> about 5 years. 
>
> I'm not at all sure that if you bought one of the more expensive machines 
> you wouldn't have the same things to contend with. I don't have any 
> experience with the Rocket 58, but I do have a friend who had an old ECM 
> Giotto and he had much the same experience with maintenance.
>
> ~Bill
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Alex Chan <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone,
>>
>> Any more pointers? 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 17, 2014 5:20:34 PM UTC+8, Enders13 wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't need to defend it, he's just a sad man trying to bring otherwise 
>>> happy people down. Ignore his sad ass
>>> On 17 Jan 2014 08:14, "Graeme Burton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Indeed expobar didn’t waste a lot of money on the aesthetics.  But if 
>>>> it looks OK to you then who cares?
>>>> The electronics are inside the box like many other machines out there.
>>>> The frame is made from iron (plus other elements) like many other 
>>>> machines out there.
>>>>
>>>> Graeme
>>>>
>>>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 10:52 pm, Dave B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is a REASON it is cheaper.It is poorly constructed, the 
>>>> electronics are mounted in the heat, and it has an IRON fram.
>>>> I could go on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Alex Chan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Im a newcomer to this forum and would like to know the opinions of 
>>>>> brewtus users.
>>>>> I'm upgrading from a PID rancilio silvia. Using a barbara vario 
>>>>> grinder now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have the opportunity now to upgrade and choosing between:
>>>>> brewtus, DB Junior, and rocket 58.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like a PID, as well as a double boiler.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did read that the brewtus is close or on par in performance to these 
>>>>> 2 machines, but it's considerably cheaper.
>>>>> So that's a plus point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to any helpful suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance :)
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