Hey Herman,
A few seconds randomly is normal, even pre-PID. It's just when the steam boiler 
gets a bit low and refills. The long running is the concern, like something 
isn't sensing or closing, etc. 
b

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> On Aug 6, 2016, at 12:41, herman dickens <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Mine is the random running for a few seconds not the 30-60 sorry about that.
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hmmmm. New symptom in my case. Random running during the day is normal, for 
>> a few seconds to top up a boiler. But the long running is not. 
>> 
>> I'm wondering about eother a blocked water line or a failing electrical part 
>> that turns the pump on and off. But I do t know what part is responsible for 
>> this. The only thing not replaced in the past year is the SSR. 
>> 
>> Hmmm.
>> b
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 09:12, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ben my vibe pump does the same thing. I know that doesn't help but mine has 
>>> been doing that since the pid  upgrade.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my android device.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 11:20 AM
>>> Subject: Trouble brewing with my pump
>>> 
>>> Har har… 
>>> 
>>> For the past week or two, my rotary pump on my PID-ed B2 will switch on 
>>> randomly during the day and run for 30-60 seconds. Otherwise all is working 
>>> normally. 
>>> 
>>> Ideas? I can just tell this is going to be a failure soon… 
>>> 
>>> b 
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