I couldn't have put it into words in a better way myself. The opinion part that is. 
The rest is new stuff to me.
Med venlig hilsen / Sincerely
Martin Malmkvist

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Behold the monster with the pointed tail.
Who cleaves the hills and breaketh walls and weapons.
Behold Him who infecteth all the World.
- Dante: The Inferno, verse 17
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From: "Richard S. Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "David Brin Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 6:04 AM
Subject: Re:Re:Hard-core Sci-Fi and The Matrix


> 
> I'm afraid that I must absolutely disagree with this assessment of _The
> Matrix_.  The makers of that film have managed to produce a plot and a
> storyline which is nearly epic in scale, layered like an onion in its
> complexity, with quite a bit of philosophy to boot.  The questions of
> identity ("Am I really here, or living in a dreamland?") and ethics (are
> Neo and the others really terrorists if they feel they can kill other
> people in the Matrix without compunction, while trying to save them?)
> are significant and deserve contemplation.  The end of _Matrix
> Reloaded_, with its revelations from the Architect, bring new layers of
> complexity to the plot that will have people guessing and pondering
> until _The Matrix Revolutions_.  Both _The Matrix_ and _The Matrix
> Reloaded_ are worth a viewing or three.  It is true that Hollywood
> produces painfully few decent science fiction or fantasy films (has
> anyone else heard the painful news that a sequel to _Dungeons and
> Dragons_ is in the works?); _The Matrix_ and _The Matrix Reloaded_ are
> *good* science fiction films.  It goes without saying, of course, that a
> film can never reach the level of complexity and subtlety that a novel
> can, but that's why you need to think of it as a different art film.
> 
> Having said that, I'll agree that there are some elements of _The
> Matrix_ and _The Matrix Reloaded_ that irked me.  Those fight scenes
> were way too long, and the produces were way too fond of their
> bullet-time special effect sequence.  I feel, though, that these are
> minor flaws in otherwise outstanding films.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 20:07, Robert Powell wrote:
> > There is a very big difference between what the popular media calls good 
> > scifi and
> > what fans of the literary side call good scifi.  Hollywood scifi is about 
> > who can produce
> > the neatest special effects, all else is secondary but still relevant.  The 
> > Matrix was,
> > quite simply, a good *Hollywood* scifi movie, compared to its brethren 
> > (Armageddon...
> > *shudder*)  But for those of us with who have flown with the Killer B's for 
> > a while, it is
> > just fancified fluff.  See it, say 'cool special effects', forget about it, 
> > and see the sequels
> > on video/dvd..
> > 
> > Rob
> > 
> > At 09:29 PM 5/28/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> > 
> > >I wasn't all that impressed with the original Matrix either.  I don't plan on
> > >going to see the new Matrix movies in the theater.  I'll probably just 
> > >rent them
> > >on DVD.
> > >
> > >Joe
> > 
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