At 08:10 AM 2/12/01 -0600, Erik wrote:
>Are you just being argumentative, or are you really so unfamiliar with
>the points of view of pro-choice people?
Ummmm...... None of the above?
>Almost everything in the abortion debate comes down to the ethics of
>whether a fetus has an intrinsic right to continue. If someone believes
>the fetus does not have such an intrinsic right, but believes that a
>boy does have the intrinsic right to continue, then the answer to your
>question follows quite easily.
Right..... but where does the right of the boy to continue arise from?
The right of the boy to continue only arises *provided* that the woman does
not choose an abortion. In essence, the boy owes all of his right to the
choice of the mother. Choose abortion - then no rights.
>Also, your statement that some life is always better than no life seems
>bizarre. By that logic, why don't you go around impregnating (raping if
>necessary) every anti-abortion woman that you meet? The answer is that
>the crux of the argument is as I have stated it above, not as you have
>stated it.
Well, raping is obviously a violation of rights, so I won't go there.
But, why not produce as many children as possible?
The answer is that the production of additional children is only a *good*
for the child, not necessarily for the parents. But the essence of my
paradox is not "goodness" it is "rights." In this case, my failure to
impregnate a woman means that the child never exists, and therfore does not
have rights. Fine, we all agree here. In this case, however, a specific
descision is made regarding a specific entity. The woman chooses the
ultimate fate of the entity - and thus, the entity incurs a logical
indebtedness to the woman for this, even after transitioning from
non-human-life to human-life. Logically, it is very hard for me to see how
this indebtedness could be argued to not extend into Hollywood slavery.
JDG
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