"Marvin Long, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>So what? Whose vision of Star Trek matters? Roddenberry's or Wise's?
Star Trek? The viewers'. Roddenberry got lucky. His involvement in the
ST:TMP and the first season of ST:TNG had a detrimental effect.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture? Wise's. A feature film isn't a pure
brain-dump, and it isn't literature, it's an experience composed of visuals
and sounds. The director is the ultimate authority, not the script-writer,
producer, actor, editor or composer. (In an ideal world, of course.)
>Ok, it's too early to poo-poo this "Director's Cut," since I haven't seen
>it yet. Maybe Roddenberry shared Wise's reservations, and Wise's edits
>will be what GR would have approved.
I don't care who was responsible for the flick - the movie, as a movie
within a franchise, should stand on its own merits. If you want to talk
about the script, the special effects, the design, the edits, the score,
etc. in isolation, that's a different story. The movie is the collective
experience of all of the above, and I judge it against its peers based on
the combination of those parts.
>The thing is, even without those improvements STI is still the best of the
>bunch. Why? 'Cause I say so, of course. :-)
:)
>The article you cite
>compares STI to 2001, and I'd argue that the two films are "unwatchable"
>for the same reason: slow pacing & wooden acting (no worse than on the TV
>series for the most part, but still).
Come on now - you really don't think the repetive sequences of "effect shot
- reaction shot - effect shot - reaction shot - effect shot - reaction shot
..." sink lower than the series ever did?
At least there's a great score to back it up.
>The special effects were't bad by
>1979 standards,
I completely agree. The effects are perfectly adequate and don't detract
from the movie in any way. Contrast with, say, ST:TFF where the effects just
look bad.
>and IMO STI has a sensawunda payoff similar to that
>provided by 2001. At least STI isn't a gratuitous act of
>kitsch--something that can't be said for any of the other movies save
>STII (mostly).
If you want to take it seriously, you've got the wrong franchise. :)
"Phoooooooootoooooon tooorpeeeeeeeedoooooos............ avaaaaaaaaay!"
Joshua
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