At 11:31 AM 5/23/01 +0300 Charlie Bell wrote:
>John wote:
>> America has always been at the forefront of technological
>> innovation, and a
>> great many of the important inventions of the past 200 years were made
>> here.
>
>Like the steam engine, antibiotics, the car, radio, television, the internal
>combustion engine, the machine gun, the jet engine, the pneumatic tyre, the
>bicycle, the mechanical loom, steel and the train?
>
>Thanks John. That entire post neatly illustrated exactly what Kat was
>talking about.

And thank you for proving my point.

You basically presented the following logic:
"The UK has made a number of important inventions, therfore American claims
to be a leader in technological innovation amount to nothing more than
arrogant bluster."

With thinking like that, it is not surprising that this discussion never
gets anywhere.   

After all, in my post - not once did I put down another country.   Not once
did I insinuate that *no* other countries have achievements to be proud of.
  I simply listed a great many of our achievements, but you just felt
compelled to come firing back "well the UK has some similar achievements
too - therefore your whole list just proves your arrogance."

This discussion is not about proving American superiorit.   Kat proposed
that "Americans do not have much reason for being arrogant."  I am seeking
to disprove her proposition.   

Kat's proposition makes it a given that:
-Some people will be arrogant.
-There are reasons for being arrogant.

I am therfore arguing that arrogance might reasonably stem from pride in
one's accomplishments.   Thus, I am pointing out that Americans have a
great many accomplishments that one might reasonably take pride in.   

JDG

  


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   majority rule.   We live by laws and a variety of institutions designed 
                  to check each other." -Andrew Sullivan 01/29/01

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