In a message dated 6/11/01 7:58:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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<< I think the point was that two killers in Colorado armed with multiple 
 firearms and explosives killed 13 and injured 23, while one man in Japan 
 armed with a knife killed 8 and injured 15, i.e., _two_ people with 
 firearms caused about 1 1/2 times as many casualties as _one_ man with a 
 knife, which does _not_ support the hypothesis that a person armed with 
 modern firearms is necessarily likely to kill many more people than a 
 person in the same situation armed with a knife, since in this case the 
 number of victims per killer was smaller for the killers using firearms 
 than for that one using a knife. >>

It's my (possibly incorrect) recollection that none of the explosives 
actually went off, so I disregarded those.

In any case, I  wasn't arguing the point, just supplying the pertinent data. 
I found the judgment on whether it's "a few more" or "a lot more" too 
subjective to try to offer an argument for one or the other. :)

As you note, it's difficult to draw a firm conclusion based on just these two 
cases. For example, were most of the casualties in both cases killed in 
classrooms, where you have a large number of people in close quarters with 
only one easily blocked exit? As I recall, some of the people at Columbine HS 
were killed in the library and halls, and others outside the school, where 
people presumably had a better chance to run away and/or hide than inside a 
classroom. But I'm not up on all the details of both killings.

Patrick Sweeney
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