My apologies to everyone if you already got this.  I sent it out yesterday,
and it never arrived back though BrinL, so I thought maybe it never got to
BrinL, somehow.......

Rob wrote:
>Every thursday night I participate in a mens group
>dedicated to the prevention of family violence (even though it actually has
>a wider scope in utilisation). This program actually works. I see men change
>quite a bit over the course of 18 weeks. I get a lot of satisfaction
>volunteering my time this way, but I also learn a lot too.

Blessings from me, Rob.  I'm glad to see responsible men taking time to
'fix the problem' with domestic violence.  As part of the women's movement,
we women have worked with women to get them out of the situation for a
number of years.  I'm more happy than I can relate than men are doing the
same on the other end with other men.

As for the death penalty:

Julia wrote quite a while back:

>I don't like the death penalty, but as far as I know, we still don't have
>the option of "life without parole" in Texas.  I'd really like to see that
>one become a possibility when a jury is deliberating its options for
>sentencing.  We really need something between "life, but you get put >up
>for parole after awhile" and "we're going to run poison into your >veins
>and kill you".

In Oregon we have a group called "Life for a Life".  They're trying to
bring legislation that would replace the death penalty with life without
parole and restitution to the survivor(s).   As an opponent of the death
penalty, I think this is a reasonable compromise.  There are some people
who can't function in civil society and need to be kept separate from those
of us who can function, or at least can be taught to function.

Amities,

Jo Anne
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