At 10:56 AM 6/21/01 +0300 Charlie Bell wrote:
>What about the mental trauma? What about the injuries? *DEATH* is not a sole
>measure of social crisis.
Well, I didn't think that you would want to include mental trauma - as
there is quite a bit of it associated with legal abortion these days.
You'd have to argue that there was far more mental trauma then, than there
is now, which I don't think that you could do.
Moreover, I think that 39 deaths can roughly approximate that there were
very few illegal abortions in that year, probably only numbering in the
thousands to ten thousands. Even choosing a high percentage of these that
result in injury and mental trauma, it is exceedingly difficult to raise
this phenomenon to the level of "social crisis", especially once you
recognize that the appropriate figure to analyze is *marginal* costs over
the present situation. (i.e. how many *more* cases of mental trauma, death,
etc. would occur over the present situation.)
>> Indeed, using your above logic, I could argue that we could prevent
>> societal crises by euthanizing the homeless also.
>
>Moron. That does not follow. Killing adults is clearly wrong, as I
>explained.
You also said that killing potential sentients is clearly wrong. So
clearly, you are willing to consider performing clearly wrong actions in
order to benefit the greater societal good.
So, I am very curious what standards you use to make this determination.
How many cases of death, mental trauma, and injury are required to justify
"clearly wrong" actions? Would you legalize abortion for one case of
each? 39 cases of each? 1000 cases of each? A total number of cases
equal to the 1.4 million clearly wrong deaths of potential sentients that
currently occur in the US each year?
JDG
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