RE: Landmines RE: US Foreign Policy Re: *DO* we share a civilizat ion?

[Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLBD/BGM/SVM/SGM]

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> Verzonden: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:17 AM
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> Onderwerp: RE: Landmines RE: US Foreign Policy Re: *DO* we share a
> civilizat ion?

> >You (plural) have mixed up two separate arguments. I made two of them:
> >
> >1. Refusing to sign the Landmine Ban Treaty should be considered a
> >crime against humanity.
> >2. Using landmines is a bad idea, and here are some sources <insert
> >URL's> that show you why.
> 
> 
> >According to you, I said "Military Intelligence should be able to
> predict an invasion" to prove that the US is guilty of crimes against 
> humanity. It should be quite obvious that such an argument can't be
> used as prove of crimes against humanity -- it doesn't make sense. How
> could such an argument be evidence of said crime?
> 
> Please explain how the expected performance of a Military Intelligence
> service can be used to prove that a country has committed a crime
> against humanity.

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> One of your reasons for believing that the United States was wrong was
> your apparent belief in the omniscience of American intelligence - you
> stated that the United States would be able to predict a North Korean
> attack and defeat it.

You're getting two things mixed up here, Gautam.

I said that the US was wrong to use landmines, for reasons such as "there
are better weapons available nowadays" and "US troops get injured/killed by
their own mines". I also said that US Military Intelligence should be able
to find out about an upcoming invasion, but I didn't use that argument as a
reason why the use of landmines is wrong.

If you believe that I *did* mention the capabilities of US Military
Intelligence as an argument for my claim that the use of landmines is wrong,
then please quote the message(s) in which I said that.


> By using your belief in American military intelligence to support the
> second argument, you use it to support the first.

I don't. Intelligence operations to find out about an invasion before it
actually happens are one thing. Using landmines to keep the invading forces
out is something entirely different.


Jeroen

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