Or for a different slant, there was an article on The
Register a few days ago:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21488.html

he categorizes insight into 'rational' and
'irrational'.  and it's entertaining to see the guy go
off his rocker when he talks about Hawking.

dean


--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Contradiction Problems????
> 
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:53:04PM -0500, Dan
> Minette wrote:
> >
> > > But there is something special about human
> consciousness.  Think about
> > > it.  Do you have any private awareness of the
> motion of the planets?
> > > Do you have any concerning the branching ratios
> for the various decays
> > > of the tau?  Do you have any concerning human
> consciousness?
> > >
> > > The answer for me is no, no, yes.  I have a
> reflexive self awarness.
> > > It may be possible
> >
> > The same thing goes for a sophisticated AI.
> 
> This discussion, I think, will hinge on a key
> question: do you agree or
> disagree with my definition of what is science.  If
> you disagree, we need to
> thrash that out before discussing this, because my
> views will be strongly
> tied to that.  If we agree, then I will use that as
> a starting point.
> 
> My guess is that you are combining your
> understanding of science with an
> assumption that some form of strong realism is
> valid.  But, I need to
> understand that better before going on with my
> arguements.
> 
> Dan M.
> 


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