At 09:42 AM 12/18/2001, you wrote: >"Richard S. Crawford" wrote: > > > > (Of course I already know that I'm a heretic for believing > > that it's possible to have security without sacrificing liberty > >They are not mutually exclusive. It's the sacrificing of the >one to obtain the other that many find objectionable.
Absolutely! Wasn't it Benjamin Franklin who said something along the lines of, "Those who would sacrifice liberty to gain a little security deserve neither liberty nor security"? Temporary increased security measures and scrutiny I can see. But suspension of basic habeas corpus and secret military tribunals I can't reconcile with what I believe the United States is about. > > and that dissent is an essential part of democracy > >I disagree! :-) (Not.) Sliante, Richard S. Crawford http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exup�ry "Push the button, Max!"
