> From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> The Fool wrote:
> > 
> > > 3*pi*(pi^3 - pi^2) = 2*pi*(pi^3 - pi^2) + 3(pi^3 - pi^2) + pi
> > >
> > > and pi is a root of a nontrivial polynomial in the rationals.
> > >
> > >       Since pi is transcendental, this is impossible.  The
> > > argument generalizes...
> > 
> > Aren't you mistaking pi for a variable here?  In this case it is the
base
> > or just
> > 3.14159265358979323846264338327950... and not what is being solved
for.
> 
>       This is the meaning of the word "root".  

But we are treating it as a base, a 'known' number that does not need to
be solved for.  You are very mistakenly treating it as a variable here.
 
> > 
> > Or we could move away from trancendental numbers if you prefer.  How
> > about the golden mean instead?
> > (sqroot(1.25) + sqroot(.25)) ~=
> > 1.6180339887498948482045868343656
> > Coincidentally the inverse (1/x) of the golden mean (gm) is
> >  .6180339887498948482045868343656
> 
>       No coincidence.  The golden mean, phi, is a root of 
> x^2 - x -1 = 0, which is equivalent to x - 1 = 1/x.  Other 
> algebraic (i.e. not transcendental) numbers will have similar
> relationships...

And I knew that being that I gave the first two non zero integers in that
series.

x = 1-1/x (sqrt(1.25) +- sqrt((1.25 - 1)))
x = 2-2/x (sqrt(2)    +- sqrt((2    - 1)))

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