----- Original Message -----
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Presidents RE: Corruption in a Democracy


> At 08:04 PM 1/18/02 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote:
> >John, I think you discount the abject poverty that existed in the US
before
> >Johnson. Some parts of the US, namely the south and Appalacia were like
> >third world nations. When the Great Society programs were being discussed
> >you used to see pitifull scenes of American families living in tin sheds
on
> >television pretty regularly
>
> Alas, that abject poverty still exists in many places to this day.

I really and truley believe welfare actually helped people in the long run.
I personally remember the slums where I live and they are not as bad as they
were. Not to say they are good nowadays.


>
> I'm sure that Dan M. will look up the poverty rate numbers and post them,
> just for effect.
>
That would be interesting.

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Been Starving Myself Maru
rob

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