At 10:59 PM 1/18/02, Dan M. wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Presidents RE: Corruption in a Democracy
>
>
> > At 08:04 PM 1/18/02 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote:
> > >John, I think you discount the abject poverty that existed in the US
>before
> > >Johnson. Some parts of the US, namely the south and Appalacia were like
> > >third world nations. When the Great Society programs were being discussed
> > >you used to see pitifull scenes of American families living in tin sheds
>on
> > >television pretty regularly
> >
> > Alas, that abject poverty still exists in many places to this day.
> >
> > I'm sure that Dan M. will look up the poverty rate numbers and post them,
> > just for effect.
>
>Since you asked, here's the trend since 1959...that's as far back as I could
>get numbers:
>
>[snip for brevity]
>
>I think you can see where the Great Society kicked in..right about 1965.
>Although you can see the poverty rate kick up in 1980.  It didn't really
>fall again until the mid 90s or so.
>
>Another interesting number is the fraction of people living in abject
>poverty.  That # is given from '75 on.
>
>[snip for brevity[
>
>The kick up is much more pronounced in the '80s, with a second kick up in
>the early '90s.  The '93 fraction of abject poverty is almost twice the '76
>fraction.


What are the definitions being used here for "poverty" and "abject poverty"?



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