> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: donderdag 24 januari 2002 12:59 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: Ignoring Source Materials (Was: re: CNN Breaking News)
> >To some extent, yes. They are living under Israeli occupation and as > >such have the right to fight Israel. > > And this is not at all tempered by the fact that the entity known as > Palestine is the *agressor* in this conflict, having four times > viciously attacked Israel, with the goal of Israel's destruction, and > having refused to sign a peace treaty with Israel (thus remaining in a > state of a war of agression against Israel)? You really need to dig out your history books on this. Israel was not attacked by an entity known as "Palestine", it was attacked by entities known as (and commonly referred to as the countries) "Egypt", "Jordan", "Syria" and "Lebanon". At best, you could group them together under "Arabs" (but even then they are only a subset of the entity "The Arabs" which includes *all* Arabs). Palestine as a country does not exist. Since you still disagree, I will ask you again: where on the map do I find the country known as "Palestine"? Where are its borders, and who are its neighbours? If what you say is true, then the logical conclusion is that there is one gigantic country in the Middle East called Palestine, which includes at least the territories of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. Although these four are recognised as sovereign countries, it follows from your statement that they are not sovereign countries but provences of this enormous State of Palestine. Somehow, I doubt their respective governments would agree with that... The Palestinians are an ethnic group that has its roots in those countries. They currently live in areas that belonged to those countries but are now under Israeli occupation. Occupation and oppression are by definition acts of aggression, so in this particular case it is *Israel* who is the aggressor. > In my mind, entities that engage in a war of agression and then are > defeated have a duty to sign a peace treaty, not a duty to continue > waging that war by any means possible until they win. So, they should *accept* living under Israeli occupation and oppression? They should stop fighting a country that is not their own but nevertheless imposes its will on them? If the Soviet Union had invaded and occupied the US, would you expect the US population to accept it and not fight back with all means possible? Jeroen _________________________________________________________________________ Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com Tom's Photo Gallery: http://tom.vanbaardwijk.com
