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> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: The Yom Kippur War [was: Fwd: CNN reaking News]
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> > > >
> > > Rules exist because humans have a hypocrite mind. The only
> > > reasonable rule for war should be: "don't".
> >
> >I think this not the way to look at war or any species wide behavior. War
> is a consequence of the sort of >social animal that we are. Our ancestors
> and living related species lived in groups of related individuals. >They
> routinely attacked other groups when they came into contact with them (that
> didn't happen too >often when there were a lot fewer of us).
> 
> I didn't respond a month ago when you said this, but I'd like to point out
> that the generalization of caring for every human goes back a long way.
> Indeed, development in the Old Testament (some call this the Hebrew
> Scripture...but some of it was originally written in Greek and Aramaic..)
> shows this.  In Exodus, one sees the requirements to go beyond tribalism,
> and to accept a rule of judges.  In Isaiah, we see a foreign king hailed as
> Messiah.  Later, we see the God of Israel as the God of all, instead of just
> the tribal God.
> 
> To me, this development is seem clearly in the teaching of Jesus: with
> stories about Good Samaritans and a demand that his followers must love
> their enemies.  It is true that Christians often/usually fall short of this
> requirement, but it doesn't mean that the requirement isn't there.
> 
> In short, the latest one can put the understand that all people must be
> loved as oneself is 2000 years ago.
> 

> Dan M.

Bob Z
I am sure you are right the antiquity of the idea of all people being part of the same 
tribe and therefore entitled to the same rights. In fact I would assume that the idea 
is older than 2000 years. But the key is that these ideas were not then and are not 
now universal.  I was simply arguing that war is not a logical moral thing, it is a 
species specific behavior that evolved in our ancestors. They lived in a different 
environment than us but we must live with the consequences of this bit of history. 

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