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From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Lurkers afraid of flames?


> > From: Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > But, I still wonder if I can make the list more hospitable to new
> posters
> > without giving up what I like about it. I know I won't let opinions
> like
> > "slavery had nothing to do with the War Between the States" go
> unchallenged.
>
> It was a war between memes (paradigms).  In the north was the Industrial
> machine that paid workers virtually nothing.  In the south was Slave
> machine that paid workers nothing.
>

You looking for trouble boy? :-)

A quick bit of data that is inconsistant with this viewpoint is found  at


http://www.friesian.com/stats.htm


which shows that the US was >80% rural in 1860.

I remember one number from Ken Burn's "The Cival War" when he discussed how
that war changed the North.  IIRC, there were only 3 foundaries in Cleveland
before the war, and over 30 after.  (The last number is a bit hazy, but it
was lots more than 3).


Dan M.

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