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> Onderwerp: Re: Palestinians Kill Anti-Zionists


> What anti-Israelis refuse to see is that the Israelis are SCARED OUT OF
> THEIR FUCKING MINDS.

Nonsense (the first part of that sentence, that is). The Israel-critical
among us do realise quite well that the Israelis must be scared. However,
they also believe that Israel has at least in part herself to blame for it.


> You see a lot of Israelis oppressing a few Palestinians. The Israelis
> see 150 million Nazi concentration camp guards - they don't distinguish
> between the Palestinians and the rest of the Arabs.

That parallel is flawed. Unlike the Nazis, the Arabs have not persecuted and
murdered millions of Jews, nor are they keeping vast numbers of Israelis in
concentration camps.


> As Tom Friedman said on today's Imus program, at the Arab summit about
> to take place, there will not be one single democratically elected
> leader attending.

Thanks to Israel, at least two key Arab leaders are not attending the
summit. Arafat is not attending because Israel might not let him back into
the West Bank. President Mubarak of Egypt decided to stay away to show
solidarity with Arafat. King Abdullah II of Jordan has not given a reason
for not attending.

The absence of key leaders means that, even if the Arab nations support the
peace plan put forth by the Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, the plan will carry
little weight.

It is not like there is no wide support for the plan, though. The article
linked to below says that the proposal has been welcomed by the UN, Europe,
the US and even "a variety of Israeli newspapers". The fact that the Arab
leaders are holding this summit shows that even they are in favour of the
peace plan. If Sharon is going to dismiss the (not at all unreasonable)
plan, he is going to find much of the rest of the world against him.

Details of the peace plan:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1844000/1844214.st
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> You can't say that about any other part of the world, not Asia, not
> Africa, not Latin America, that at a regional summit there would not -
> could not - be a single democratically elected leader in attendance.

Absence of democracy does not equate absence of a preference for peace.


> You Israel haters and Arab lovers would actually hate living in any of
> the Arab countries you so adore.

Being critical of Israel does not equate hatred of Israel. I do not hate
Israel; I only hate the way it is behaving.


> Blaming Israel may assuage your anti-Semitic fantasies, but it does not
> contribute to peace.

As often said before, being critical of Israel does not equate
anti-Semitism. Who was it that said that once you start calling your
opponents anti-Semitic, you have lost the argument?

Doug already asked that people on this list refrain from personalizing the
argument. I second that. No namecalling, please, Tom.


Jeroen

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