At 21:15 5-4-02 -0500, John Giorgis wrote:

> >And now it hurts again.
>
>So, the topic of abortion hurts you still?

The topic does not hurt me, it is the memory of our tragedy that still 
hurts like hell.


>And indeed, it ruins your day (and you imply that this something that I
>should not do.)

Well, would you call it *nice* to ruin someone's day? Ruining someone's 
day, especially by reminding them of personal tragedy, is by definition 
something anyone should refrain from.


>Why is it that consideration should be taken for your sensitivity to
>certain topics, but that you would deny that we should express the same
>consideration for the sensitivity of Jews to certain topics?

I believe there is a difference here. Loss of a child is something that 
actaully happened to me fairly recently. How many of our Jewish members 
have personally experienced the Holocaust? For most Jews in this world, the 
Holocaust is something that happened to their ancestors but they never 
experienced personally.

The other difference is that *you* brought up the memory of my tragedy, 
while it is the Jews themselves (and their supporters) who bring up the 
Holocaust every time something bad happens to them. I mean, I have never 
heard an Arab say "let's finish what Hitler started", but I have often 
heard Jews (and their supporters) say that "Arabs want to finish what 
Hitler started".


>Of course, if you could only recognize that you birthed Phaedra, not
>aborted her, maybe things would be much nicer for you.

<sigh>

John, an abortion is a premature ending of pregnancy through medical 
intervention; the *reason* for it is totally irrelevant, and the traumatic 
effects are not any less, depending on that reason. Unlike what pro-lifers 
seem to think, such decisions are not made my emotionless people over 
dinner, between main course and dessert. It has an enormous emotional and 
psychological impact, even on women who have an abortion because they do 
not want children.

When you go through such an event, the difference between your and my 
definition of abortion is so small that it becomes non-existant. But that 
is something one can only fully understand when one has gone through the 
process personally -- and that is something everyone may hope never to 
experience.


Jeroen -- off to find some tissues again

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