> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Marvin Long, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: Geen
> Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Onderwerp: RE: Resolved: War is immoral.

> > I am pointing out that to some extent (deportation), Ilana is
> > promoting doing the same thing the Nazis did to the Jews. Nowhere in
> > my posts will you find me saying her plan includes genocide.
> 
> I suppose that for the very weakest definition of deportation, you
> might be right, but by that definition hundreds of thousands
> Palestinians have already been "deported."

And what exactly might that definition be, then?


> To be "outraged" because Ilana suggested a more humane way of doing
> something that's already been going on is silly.
> 
> The crucial fact that you overlook, and which warps your comparison, is
> that the Nazis never offered Jews citizenship; never offered to send
> them to non-Nazi countries where presumably they would be out of Nazi
> control; never offered Jews a choice.  You want us to equate the two
> acts through the word "deportation," but Ilana's "deporatation" and the
> Nazis "deportation" are two wholly dissimilar things.

Actually, you are the one who is overlooking something. Unlike what you seem
to be believing, I am not saying that if Israel does *one* thing the Nazis
also did (deportations), it also wants to do everything else the Nazis did.

But then, I have long ago given up hope that the pro-Israel crowd will learn
to see the difference...   :-(


> > > And you think it's reasonable to expect everyone to assume that
> > > when a person suggests b, they really want a (applied to the
> > > Palestinians, that is).
> >
> > I never said that. That "expectation" exists only in your mind.
> 
> Reread your posts.  It's the justification for your "outrage."

I reread my posts, but I found nothing about "outrage". Disgust about the
fact that a Jew of all people would suggest doing something that was done to
Jews, yes. But nowhere did I say anything about be outraged.


Jeroen

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