----- Original Message -----
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: I need a reality check on aisle 2


> We clearly disagree on the definition of "threat". I do not see such a
site
> a a threat, but more like the penalty the state imposes for breaking a
law.
> Pointing a gun at someone and saying "do this-or-that or I will shoot" is
a
> threat.
>
This is where I have a major difference of opinion with Jeroen.
No one who is a friend to another person can take on Anything that even
resembles "State-like" powers. Nor can one gain the power to coerce
consistantly and still retain friendship.
You may have noticed how much people love government.
You also may have noticed how attitudes toward Jeroen change for the worse
when people claim that they feel that they are being threatened by him.
Its pretty difficult to be friends when someone assumes Godlike, Statelike,
Bosslike, or other types of coercive power over another.

xponent
Kneel Before Me Worms Maru
rob

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