----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam C. Lipscomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: An acknowledgement of Jeroen's Good Intentions (was Re: List owners v. list members, bah! )
> Jeroen wrote: > > In the past, some other people have had that power as well. IIRC, in > the > > six years of its existence, Brin-L has had five individuals who > acted as > > listowners (Hector Yee, Stewart Blandon, Eileen Tan, Julia Thompson, > and > > me). None of them ever abused his/her powers. Given the possible > > consequences for a listowner who abuses his/her power, as well as > the > > stated policy on use of powers, I see no reason to expect that any > > listowner will abuse his/her powers in the future. > > and > > > True. However, I need three things in order to boot someone: means, > motive > > and opportunity. Do I have the means? Yes, my status as listowner > gives me > > the means. Do I have the motive? Sure, I have been attacked often > enough > > and removing the offenders would have made my on-line life a bit > happier. > > Do I have the opportunity? Yes, it will only take one message to the > > listserver to boot someone. But despite the fact that I could have > booted > > certain people, in the eight months I have been a listowner I have > never > > done that. If I *would* do that, I would almost immediately loose my > > listowner status and probably find myself booted not much later. > IOW, I > > have nothing to gain from abusing my powers. > > > > And that, my dear friend, should be enough reason to have no fear I > will > > ever act otherwise. If you insult me today, you will still be > subscribed > > when you wake up tomorrow. > > This seems to me to be a pretty clear statement from Jeroen regarding > his feelings on this issue. I am willing to believe, based upon this, > that Jeroen will not abuse his powers. I'll even put it in all caps: > IT IS MY BELIEF THAT JEROEN HAS SUFFICIENTLY DEMONSTRATED THAT HE WILL > NOT ABUSE HIS POSITION AS LISTOWNER. > > However... > > I still think the mist of misbehavior is a Bad Idea. Several others > have already listed their problems with it. There is a fine line > between creating and enforcing a community standard of behavior and > intimidating community members. It's best to hew as closely as > possible to the original goal of this group, to be a free-ranging > forum. Individuals are welcome to join or leave at their whims, based > upon their happiness with the community. Individuals are also more > than able to use filtering options in their email software to delete > or ignore posts from those they do not think credible, or on subjects > they do not wish to discuss. That's all I'm saying on it. I am now > through discussing it. > > Just my $0.02, which today is worth 0.0217841 EUR. > > Adam > [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK.....I'm willing to stand with you on this one Adam, I dont think Jeroen has intentions that could be described as evil, and he is a pretty nice guy in most situations. xponent Not Fully Socialised Maru rob
