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From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Michael Bellesiles Resigns from Emory Faculty


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Michael Bellesiles Resigns from Emory Faculty
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:42 AM
> > Subject: RE: Michael Bellesiles Resigns from Emory Faculty
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> >
> > > At 04:06 PM 10/26/2002 -0400 Joe Hale wrote:
> > > >The moral of this story is:  1.  Don't mess with the National Rifle
> > > >Association.  2.  If you do mess with them, make damn sure you have
> your
> > > >facts right before you publish anything.
> > >
> > > Ahem - shouldn't the moral "Don't tell lies in a peer-reviewed
academic
> > > discipline" be #1 on that list?
> >
> > Well, it depends on whether it is a question of honor and respect or
> > integrity.
> >
> It appears that in this case integrity was a major issue.
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> xponent
> He Lied Maru
> rob

I am not defending his integrity.  I am musing on what drives people. If he
was honor driven, the problem was tangling with the NRA.  If he was
integrity driven, he wouldn't have lied in the first place.

Its an interesting state of affairs.  People can lie through their teeth,
get caught at it, and have the people who catch them look bad.  Others,
can't get away with being called a liar, even if they were later proven to
be telling the truth on the subject.

Dan M.


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