----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Michael Bellesiles Resigns from Emory Faculty


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Michael Bellesiles Resigns from Emory Faculty
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>
> > > Well, it depends on whether it is a question of honor and respect or
> > > integrity.
> > >
> > It appears that in this case integrity was a major issue.
> >
> >
> > xponent
> > He Lied Maru
> > rob
>
> I am not defending his integrity.  I am musing on what drives people. If
he
> was honor driven, the problem was tangling with the NRA.  If he was
> integrity driven, he wouldn't have lied in the first place.

I cant see where this is a binary question. I dont see where in this case
honor or integrity would be the driving forces. I think its likely to be ego
driven to the point that his personal prejudices over rode his sense of
honor and integrity.

Bellesiles was found to have falsified one set of data and it is hinted that
he intentionally misinterpreted a large amount of his remaining data to fit
his premise.

It does not surprise me at all that he was forced to resign. I smelled BS
the first time I heard about him (here on Brin-L). The entire premise was
preposterous to begin with, the stuff conspiracy theories are made of.

>
> Its an interesting state of affairs.  People can lie through their teeth,
> get caught at it, and have the people who catch them look bad.  Others,
> can't get away with being called a liar, even if they were later proven to
> be telling the truth on the subject.
>
I agree with the above, but dont think it has much to do with Bellesiles or
his resignation.

xponent
Still Owns No Firearms Maru
rob


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