At 16:15 10-11-2002 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:

> No, it is not.  There are reasons why that do not involve God answering
> prayers by intervening on the behalf of the person praying.  It is
> patently obvious to me why.  If you think about it Erik, it should also
> be obvious to you.  If it isn't, say so, and I'll give more details.

Baloney. There is no way prayer can directly help anyone. Citing cases
where something IN ADDITION to prayer makes a difference does not prove
that prayer had a direct effect. If wishing could make it so, the world
would be an amazing place. In reality, it is action, effort, and work
that accomplishes thing, not wishing or praying.
AMEN!


Jeroen "Money makes the world go round" van Baardwijk

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