On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:14:29PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:

> No, because the pebble in your shoe will affect your body language
> negatively. :)

I beg to differ. It may make you slow down and stoop down, maybe
appearing to be more concerned :) Besides, what if you are gently
sucking on a good piece of candy, that can affect your body language. Is
eating candy good for the homeless?


> It's not just body language; it's general attitude.  For some people,
> prayer has a positive effect on their general attitude.

And general attitude has an affect on whether you pray. Cause and effect
is pretty tenuous here, I think. Why make up such tenuous chains of
cause and effect? Why not just say that having a good attitude and
pleasant body language could help a homeless person? And even that isn't
likely to have a significant effect.

> If the same effect on general attitude can be achieved without prayer,
> then that's great.

Of course it can. Why the "if"?

> If the prayer is part of the process shaping the attitude, though,
> then in that particular case, prayer does make a difference.

Just like the pebble or the candy.


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