on 27/11/02 7:33 pm, Reggie Bautista at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> William T. Goodall wrote:
>> Some Anglican clergy in England (or so I have heard) have the position that
>> the Bible is parable and metaphor, that some of the historical events *may*
>> have taken place (although that doesn't really matter), but that none of
>> the
>> miracles actually happened, that there was no actual resurrection, that
>> Jesus (if he was a historical figure) was not literally the son of God
>> (since God doesn't literally exist) and so on.
>> 
>> Under this interpretation the Bible could be interpreted as not making any
>> counterfactual claims and therefore possibly not lying.
>> 
>> But I don't think that is the interpretation of all Christians who are not
>> fundamentalists.
> 
> True, it's probably not the interpretation of all Christians who are not
> fundamentalists, but it's at least pretty close to the interpretation of
> this particular (more or less) Christian who is definitely not a
> fundamentalist.
> 
> The original thing that started this whole discussion was a "proof" that
> religion is evil because of lies.  If, in my case, my religion is not a lie,
> then in my case, at least, religion is not evil based on that proof.
> 
> Now, if you'd care to revise the proof...

But you don't actually have a religion, just 'spiritual beliefs'. Under the
definition of religion DanM was trying to foist on us (as far as I
understand him) you aren't religious at all. Under the more generally
accepted definition of religion that I cobbled together from respectable
sources and posted earlier, you aren't 'in a religion' either - you have a
kind of California spiritual buffet belief system. One of the keynotes of a
religion is that you don't get to pick and choose - it is all or none. This
is of course what led to the reformation...

-- 
William T Goodall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk/


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