----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Long, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:39 PM Subject: RE: Admin: Server access blocked
> A while ago an escalating series of temporary bans - a week, two weeks, a > month, etc., for each successive suspension - was floated. I don't know > if we want to be that formal, but I think fairness suggests that the > current suspension be set at a modest and finite number of days. > > It might also be reasonable to set as a minimum preconditon to > reinstatement that one refrain from attacking the list's server.... I think that your last statement addresses the crux of the matter. Right now, the outlook that Jeroen's attitude, as exhibited in his emails, is that Nick has whatever harm befalls him from this coming because of the terrible things that he has done. This is a theme we've seen for years now: others are responsible for Jeroen's behavior. Given this, should Nick trust Jeroen with access to his server before Jeroen exhibits clear evidence of a change in attitude? I certainly wouldn't risk my business in order to be nice to Jeroen. Further, recalling the violent images that Jeroen used in previous altercations (telling Eric that he should put a bullet in his head, and mentioning a grenade and this list in the same phrase), I see a very scary pattern. Even though most people who exhibit warning signs do not go through with actions, warning signs are still warning signs. Let me put it simply. With the rage that I see in the emails of Jeroen, would people expect, given the opportunity to get even by bringing Nick's entire network down, costing him tens of thousands, for Jeroen to refrain from doing it because Nick doesn't deserve it? My answer is maybe/maybe not. If it were my system, I wouldn't risk it until the answer is "no." Trying unauthorized access into a computer system is crossing a line. Behavior should have logical consequences. Being denied access to that system until one no longer poses a threat seems extremely reasonable to me. Dan M. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
