"just john" wrote:
> >> Now here's something I've never had a satisfactory answer to:
> >>
> >> Yes was famous for its volume-control lead guitar sound. Steve Howe
did
> >it
> >> in Yes, and Peter Banks did it in Flash, but Banks didn't really do it
on
> >> his albums with Yes.
[snip]
> >> SO, was Howe imitating Banks, or was Banks imitating Howe?
Rob replied:
> >I suppose it could be argued that Howe played a bit in Banks style for the > >sake of continuity. But the guitar sounds on "Time And A Word" and "The Yes > >Album" are strikingly different. I think the guitar riffs ... > >
just john:
> I'm not talking riffs, I'm talking lead.
Rob:
Pretty much the same thing in a single guitar band. Everything hangs on the melodic hook. Reggie?
and just john:
> To make a slow attack on notes, they manipulate a volume control. That's
> the heart of the slow parts of the "Yes lead guitar sound." I'd never
> heard it before I heard it with them. It's on Flash albums, too. But
it's
> not really on either of the first two Yes albums. SO, one of the
guitarists
> is imitating the other, but I don't know which.
>
and Rob again:
I would normally go back to my recordings of the early albums, but unfortunately I only had them on cassette tape, and those tapes were all destroyed in a horrible accident with a large magnet (I'm *still* not sure how my guitar amp got there...)I think that was a style that was popularised a bit during the sixties and had just come back into vogue with the progressive set. It is used to great effect on 'On The Silent Wings Of Freedom" from Tormato.
The only Yes I currently have is a CD of 90125. If either of you could point me to some .mp3's of specific songs, I'll take a listen.
Certainly manipulating volume to remove the attack of a guitar was done in the '60s both with a volume pedal and with the volume knob on the guitar itself, and a similar attack-less sound is what you get when you record a guitar part backwards (or more accurately, turn the tape backwards and then record the guitar part, and then turn the tape back to it's original direction for playback).
I don't remember any specific instances of that in early Yes, but then again it has been a very long time since I've heard most of that stuff.
Again, if .mp3's are available, I'll put on my audio-engineering hat and take a listen.
Reggie Bautista
Always Willing to Help Maru
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