Dan Minette wrote:

There is a great deal of difference between the situation with N. Korea and
Iraq.  At the present time, the government of Iraq has minimal ability to
inflict casualties on the citizens of other countries, while North Korea
has a tremendous ability.  Just with conventional weapons alone, they can
kill tens of thousands in a few hours.  They have thousands of pieces of
artillery trained on Seoul, ready to kill if attacked.  Further, they
probably have 1-2 nuclear weapons, and IIRC, their missles can now reach
Tokyo.



Which suggests to me that the Bush administrations approach to the problem of WMDs is fatally flawed. Of course you know that I think it is not only flawed but that the Bush policy's long term effect will be more enemies more terrorists and more WMDs.
Violence and intimidation might be successful short term measures, but they will ultimately fail.

I was talking about being hypocritcal about Iraq. After all, Bush
did include NK in his "axis of evil", but until/unless they drive him
to it by forcing their WMD down his throat, he has no obvious intention
of starting a war in NK.

In a real sense, it's been too late for North Korea for years.  We'd have
to accept tens of thousands of civilian casualties in South Korea at a
minimum.  IIRC, Doug quoted some estimates of up to a million casualties in
a war.


So what is the point of dealing with Iraq the way we are if the idea is to contain the spread of WMDs? In fact its not much of a puzzle at all because the motivation isn't WMDs or terrorism, its oil. Nothing else makes any sense whatsoever. You can go on all you want about how we wouldn't control the oil fields if we conquer Iraq. Hooey. The Bush admin is even saying that oil prices will be lower post conquest:

"The Bush Administration's only attempt to quantify the economic costs of war was provided by White House economist Larry Lindsey. Mr Lindsey said the liberation of Iraqi oil fields would drop the oil price by boosting oil production by 3 to 5 million barrels a day."

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/12/26/1040511133257.html

Doug







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