> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Crystall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?
> 
> 
> On 14 Jan 2003 at 14:36, Dan Minette wrote:
> 
> > > >Dan M.
> > >
> > > And this is why the debate is going nowhere : sides don't 
> even agree 
> > > on what they're arguing about.
> > 
> > This particular point I think can be resolved factually.  A 
> > fetus/embreyo is not the same organism as the mother.  It is within 
> > the mother, it is not the mother.
> 
> Just as FYI..the *Jewish* view...
> 
> It states in the bible that if a woman bearing child is injured by 
> someone, and the unborn fetus/embreyo aborts then a monetary fee must 
> be paid to the woman. If the woman dies, then it's murder.
>  
> *fans the flames which will follow*

No flames.  I think you point out (correctly) that much of this is a religious debate 
clothed as secular morality.

-j-
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