RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

[Jon Gabriel]

From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:09:34 +0100

At 13:43 13-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:

Jose interpreted my Legal Notice as a "threat", which is a gross exaggeration, as the word "threat" suggests extremely negative consequences.

The word "threat" does not suggest _extremely negative_ consequences. It merely identifies negative consequences.

Must be a cultural difference then. Unlike a certain subset of Americans (of which some people on this list are members, sadly), over here we don't yell "threat" at the first hint of something negative that might happen.

You have made some serious threats in the past. Considering the precedent, they may be entitled to be jumpy about it. :(

Where I live, consequences have to be very grave before mentioning those consequences is called a threat.

With regard to this, a threat simply describes intent to do harm. You characterize it by describing it's severity.

You might consider looking up the word in an English language dictionary to acquaint yourself with proper usage.

I'll be helpful: Threat is defined as "an expression of intention to inflict evil, injury, or damage." (m-w.com) Your "legal notice" essentially says you are not responsible for any damage that might result to others from direct and deliberate actions made by you.

That is not a *threat*, that is a *disclaimer*. You might consider looking up the word in an English language dictionary to acquaint yourself with proper usage.

You have threatened (and seemed most intent and serious about it, too) to post a wall of shame that would have very real life, damaging consequences to many list members. Your legal disclaimer is designed to hold you blameless if (and when) your actions cause harm. I stand by my original post.

BTW, the definition you give of "threat" proves you wrong, and actually proves that my Legal Notice does not contain any threats; nowhere do I mention any intent to "inflict evil, injury or damage". Damage *might* result from publishing your message elsewhere, but doing damage is not the *intent* behind publishing your message elsewhere.

I am, as usual, not interested in debating semantics with you. You have proven yourself most capable of taking action in the past that is intended to cause real life harm to people on this list. Your disclaimer is designed to protect you if you do so again.

Only the first part of my Legal Notice ("your replies may be published elsewhere") could possibly be interpreted as a threat, and even then it is only a threat in the definition used by a certain extremely oversensitive subset of the US public.

On a side note, I don't get the impression that anyone on this list actually realises the purpose of including that Legal Notice.

If it's anything other than what I just described, I'd be most interested in hearing about it.

Well, we speak English as our native language. We would be expected to use it correctly,

And, IMO, it's a rather hypocritical sentiment coming from someone who uses the phrase 'zero tolerence for intolerence' as part of his sig line.

Personally, I find it extremely funny that you first say that native speakers would be expected to use English correctly, and then manage to make the same spelling error *twice* in the same sentence. It's all the more dumb since you could have simply copied and pasted that particular part of the sentence.

You might consider looking up the various words of your last sentence in an English language dictionary to find out what word you misspelled, and what the proper spelling is.


Jeroen van Baardwijk -- not a native speaker, but better at spelling

Heh. I was a NYS Spelling Bee Semi-Finals winner when I was in fourth grade. You'd think I would have better skill at telling the difference between an "e" and an "a". :)

Did you have an actual rebuttal to my comment, or were you just tring to deflect attention away from the accuracy of my statement by being snarky?

Jon

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