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From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat


> At 09:48 13-03-03 -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>
> > > I don't think it could be anywhere near that bad, and even if Bush
> > > doesn't plan to build a great country out of Iraq, it is highly
> > > unlikely he would allow such a civil war, it would make him look
> > > like a complete failure and that is one thing that he will not
> > > tolerate, no matter his sincerity.
> > >
> >But if the oil prices were reduced by a factor of 2 or 3, would his
> >electors care about how many iraqis were being killed?
>
> Probably not. As Stalin said: "The death of one man is a tragedy, a
million
> deaths is a statistic".

Actually, the greatest probablility is that the numbers of Iraquies dying
this year will be lower if the US goes in soon.  The odds are even higher
that the number dying in '03-'04 will be less.  So, if you are opposed to
US intervention, it must be becasue the costs are so high, that they exceed
this benefit. That's not an unreasonable position, and I actually lean
towards it...but no one should argue that they are opposed to war becasue
of their love for the people of Iraq.

> >How many people die every day of AIDS in Africa because the Capitalist
> >Corporations insist on keeping anti-AIDS drugs so expensive as to make
> >country-wide campaings impossible?
>
> According to http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/, last year an estimate 2.4
million
> people in Africa died of HIV/AIDS. To answer your question, that's
roughly
> 6,575 people each day -- or 4.6 people every minute...   :-(

Out of curiosity, Jeroen, what have you done to help with the AIDS problem?

Dan M.


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