--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew Crystall wrote:
> > William T Goodall wrote:
> > 
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2977086.stm
> > >
> > > "The method of animal slaughter used by Jews and
> Muslims should be
> > > banned immediately, according to an independent
> advisory group.
> > 
> > "It's a sudden and quick haemorrhage. A quick loss
> of blood pressure
> > and the brain is instantaneously starved of blood
> and there is no
> > time to start feeling any pain," said spokesman Dr
> Majid Katme.
> > 
> > That's considerably MORE Humane than proceses at
> >most slaughterhouses. What was the problem again?
> 
> Depends on how the animal is positioned for the
> throat-cutting.
> 
> I think Temple Grandin went into this in _Thinking
> in Pictures_.
> 
> Given my druthers, I'd much prefer to buy meat
> slaughtered at a slaughterhouse she'd designed.

You probably do, as she has been a leading authority
in the handling of feed animals for years, and an
advisor to the USDA.

David Hobby had recently posted:
"This discussion is ironic, because for most of
history the kosher practice was more humane than the
norm.  I can't imagine that being led into a
slaughterhouse is that easy on the animal involved
either--for some reason this is being left out of the
discussion.  I'm just guessing, but I would bet that
the average kosher butcher induces less overall trauma
when you count the time leading up to the actual
killing as well."

Temple Grandin has changed the way in which ritual
kosher slaughter is done in the US and around the
world; here is an article on why she lectured in
Israel:  [Warning: *very* graphic description of prior
method used in the US.]
http://www.grandin.com/ritual/kosher.slaughter.html

There is a sentence or two on ritual Islamic
slaughter: animal is stunned, short knife vs. long.

This is a short pdf puplication:
http://www.amif.org/FactSheetRitualSlaughter.pdf

This documents the improvements in cattle slaughter in
the US:
http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/jan01/s011501uu.asp
"...since a 1996 survey of slaughterhouses Dr. Grandin
conducted on behalf of the USDA found a majority were
deficient in humane handling and stunning practices.
She recounted how, of the 10 randomly selected plants,
seven were unable to successfully stun the cattle on
the first attempt, and only three plants were in
compliance with AMI guidelines...

"...Dr. Grandin said in her 25 years of working with
slaughter operations, she has never witnessed more
change in the industry than when the McDonald's
Corporation began auditing its meat suppliers in
1999."

Of ritual slaughter, she said that when performed
correctly, the welfare "is acceptable, but we're not
going to put it up to the excellent level." 

She is a very engaging speaker, and if you get the
chance to hear her lecture at a local fair or
convention, I highly recommend it (I heard her talk
about horses - of course! - not animal slaughter).

Debbi

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