At 08:46 PM 8/13/03 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship

...

> Most people who have studied it say that rape is a crime of
> _violence_, and
> that the sexual assault is only the way in which it is carried
> out.  I fail
> to see the legitimate need a would-be rapist has for committing violence
> against someone weaker than himself.

Straw man -- no one is saying that the legitimate need is to commit
violence.  I don't think that is *ever* a legitimate need.

> Also, most pedophiles or others who
> molest children are not Catholic priests who have no legitimate way to
> engage in sexual activity.

Again, a straw man.  Nobody is saying that people do these things because
they can't deal with their needs legitimately.



That is what it sounded like you were saying:




At 08:04 AM 8/13/03 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship

...

> How would making our (I presume you mean the U.S.?) society "more just"
> stop a would-be rapist from ever committing his first rape?  Or a
> pedophile
> from molesting his first young victim?  Or an already well-paid company
> official from embezzling funds from his company or profiting by
> manipulating the market (think Enron or Wordcom, frex.)?

Why do people do those things?  Each act is an inappropriate and harmful way
to try to satisfy a legitimate need,




-- Ronn! :)

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