Yeah? So join a union or quit whining.
On Saturday 2003-09-13 11:47, Jan Coffey wrote: > --- Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > [[BTW: you were so angry when you replied that it > > showed in many typographical errors...]] > > You should never make such assumptions. I do not make typographical errors. > I make spelling errors becouse I am Dyslexic. This topic has been beat to > death but if you want to learn more about dyslexia or why spell checkers do > not solve the problem , i would be glad to entertain the conversation. > > As far as my emotional state goes, yes a few years ago (still in the hight > of the DotCom bubble) I was angry. Then it was H1's finding advancement > over those with greencards or citizenship not becouse of their skill, > abillity, or commitment, but becouse they were nearly or just as good, but > for less money. > > I was angry becouse as more and more H1's were at work the culture shifted > to be ~their~ culture. It became difficult to get anything done at work in > English, and although I do speak a bit of Chinese, it's not enough to get > by at work, and I know only a couple of words in Hindi. BTW my wife is > Chinese and my best friend is Indian. (But they don't have class systems, > or racesism, and they use a language everyone can understand at work). > > I was angry when majority of Indeans made it into managment positions they > had no quams about continuing their class system and racesism in the > workplace. They treated women deploribly, and worked people like slaves. it > got so bad at one point at Oracle that one whole team slept under their > desks at work for over a month. Then all the GCs and Citazens quit, or > moved to other groups. The brain drain on that project finaly made it fail. > There are several law suits right now against Oracle for such goings on and > even worse. Including one Indean woan ho was forced by her Indean boss to > preform sexual favors or loose her job. > > It is unfortnate that Indiean society has not yet slufed off the class > system and still has less reguard for women than for men. And this isn't > allways the case with all Indeans, but it IS the case, to deny it is only > to allow it to continue. > > I was angry when I saw frieds who labored to build start-ups for half of > what they could have been makeing elsewhere and who showed the highest > degree of loyalty and work ethic booted out of their jobs just before their > options vested and replaced by H1's who would work for next to nothing with > hardly no options. > > I was angry when 7 groups at Seible were asked to train the Indeans who > would replace them, all the while being promised that they were not going > to loose their jobs. > > It would be one thing if the Indean and Chinese corporations could do the > same work, but when they have not recieved the same training. In my > experience they do not understand object Oriented Design, or much at all > about modern software development. They Indean and Chinese schools are > simply not up to par. > > And this makes me angry becouse just as the DotCom failed becouse of over > zelous expectations coupled with crap for code, now the same will happen to > the rest of the technology sector. Unless of course the Indean and Chinese > education system steps up (and I would be glad for them to do so). But then > that would also mean that all of my profesion would be moved off-shore. > > You don't think that when that happens they will hier Americans there, let > our culture take over their company, and shift all buisness to being spoken > in English...do you? > > > > ===== > _________________________________________________ > Jan William Coffey > _________________________________________________ > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
