--- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >We are all threatened when "equal rights" become "equal numbers". Should > >Dyslexics have "equal rights" to become english teachers? Do you want > people > >with I.Q.'s under 80 to have "equal rights" to be Mathmaticians? The blind > to > >be fighter pilots? Well? > > > >If is so happens that there are certain things that statisticaly women > realy > >are better than men at, then why shouldn't the number of women in those > >positions be greater than men? And why shouldn't the average pay for that > >position be higher for women than it is for men? > > > >What do you consider equal? opertunity or numbers? > > > > What criteria other than equal numbers can an outsider use to determine > equal opportunity in a quantitative way?
The very assumed need for the criteria creates the need for the criteria.
<whatever group> will never be really "equal" until no such criteria is needed.
> Frex, if somebody accuses an employer of discriminating against <whatever > group>, how does the employer prove once and for all s/he does not > discriminate except by hiring as many members of <whatever group> as is > necessary to make the workplace reflect the same percentage of <whatever > group> as the general population? Even if the employer has records showing > > that s/he has considered applicants from <whatever group> only to reject > them because none of those who applied were qualified for the job, some > people will say that the deficit in numbers is proof of discrimination > against members of <whatever group> and will at the very least continue to > file claim after claim and lawsuit after lawsuit against the employer until > > what is considered a sufficient number of members of <whatever group> are > hired.
That is exctly the kind of thinking that has us where we are today. Overcomeing descrimination is not complete until such equal numbers are no-longer used for determining.
The need to fit equal numbers prolongs the descrimination, it keeps it alive, it even fosters it becouse it doesn't take much for someone in the previously "dominant" group to realize that their numbers are being artificialy culled to make room for the less worthy, just to make up numbers. This in turn creates an environemnt of resentment. Iv'e been on both sides of this, -BOTH- sides. In all cases it is unjust.
I agree with you. I just brought that up because it's the situation that must be dealt with in America today.
-- Ronn! :)
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