--- "d.brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Kevin said:
>
>
> >I have a different question. I've read a few opinions stating that
> >the advanced countries are holding back third world countries by
> >forcing them to adopt certain ideas, especially environmental
> >policies. These countries cannot develop the way we did. I can see
> >the wisdom in helping them avoid our mistakes but we cannot build
> >nuclear power plants in places that do not have the infrastructure
> >to support it. I'm just wondering if there are certain obvious,
> >safe, steps that these countries can follow to move towards
> >self-sufficiency?
>
>
> There are all sorts of silly things under the banner of
> 'antiglobalization'. There is one simple fact always to remember.
> There is exactly one criterion that predicts accurately whether a
> nation and people have done well in the last 60 years. How closely
> has their economy been tied to that of the United States?
>
> The absolute perfection of this correlation should be an utter
> embarrassment to the simpleminded posturers out there.
>
> Now, having said that, has America committed crimes? Duh! In
> protecting our farmers, for example, our price supports have wounded
> 3rd world farmers exactly BECAUSE we refused to let then tie their
> economy to ours!
>
> Ah, we can hope....
What? would you have us allow our own people to fall into a 3ed world state
within our own borders? And besides, we are not talking about fair
comparisons are we? Sure, if you work people for 16 hours a day, and you work
kids 6 and up, and you feed them crap, and you have them live in shacks, and
you pay them only enough to barly survive, sure, then you can do it cheaper.
We use to have that here in the US we called it "Slavery".
So no, we don't allow places with these kinds of systems to compete in the
area of farming. We do, however, allow this kind of "comeption" in textiles,
electronics, and software.
Who benifits from so called "free trade" anyway? Yea the peope in 3ed world
contries who will work for 16 hours a day for next to nothing. They benifit,
if you can call that benifiting. I do not. So who else? Oh yea, that would be
the people who have the money, they get more money, and what about middle
class America? They, who built these industries to begin with, who's hard
work (usualy for less than the value of the work) they get shafted and sent
closer and cloaser to the same state as those in the 3ed world.
It's not a case of "globalization" or "free trade" it's not helping the needy
or doing any libral minded good thing. It's as simple as the haves, wanting
more, and taking it from the have nots.
You want real globilization and free trade? Make every country play by the
same rules. Pay everyone by the same pay scale. Charge everyone the same
amount for the same product. Judge everyone by the same standards.
Think of it like this:
John is buying bags of peanuts, Jane produces 3 bags a day she is use to
selling at $1 a bag. John realizes that he could have Sam produce peanuts and
offer him $.10 a bag.
This is plane old capitalism right? supply demand etc. Right? Wrong! why?
Becouse John turns around and sells those peanuts at $10 a bag. His deal with
Sam is artificial. Sam is taking an unreasonable small amount of money for
his peanuts. Further more Sam's soil is not as fertile so Sam has to do twice
the work for an order of mgnitude less pay. Still the quality of Sam's
peanuts are not quite as good as Jane's not that they buyer knows any
differnt.
Or look at it this way:
What if an Indean of Chinese company started selling Databases based on
Oracle's speks for an order of magnatude less than what Oracle askes? What if
someone in Korea built an operating system that was compatible with Windows
software and began selling it for $1 each? Would we not tax these products?
We tax Japanes imports so they started building them here in the US. Well?
Why don't we tax Indean software and Chinese electronics?
Oh, that would be becouse they guys with the money, they are making more and
more money off of this stuff. You bet that if it were Ineans or Chinese who
were makeing the big money they would be taxed.
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