On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, William T Goodall wrote:
>
> On 3 Nov 2003, at 7:17 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote:
>
> >> From: William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: religious/political question
> >> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:44:04 +0000
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 Nov 2003, at 4:54 pm, Julia Thompson wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, William T Goodall wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1 Nov 2003, at 9:38 pm, Jim Sharkey wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Fool wrote:
> >>>>>> So when andrew crystal starts building concentration camps and
> >>>>>> death camps, for atheists, freethinkers, and rationalists
> >>>>> <SNIP further rantings>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Considering that you have made it clear you would cheerfully
> >>>>> eliminate
> >>>>> all religions if given your druthers, I find this over-the-top
> >>>>> hysteria pretty darn ironic. Talk about double-speak.
> >>>>
> >>>> The method religion has usually used to eliminate disagreement is to
> >>>> eliminate those who disagree. The freethinker's approach to
> >>>> eliminating
> >>>> religion is through information, debate and education.
> >>>
> >>> Just as you don't convert many people to religion these days by
> >>> telling
> >>> them to repent or they'll go to hell, telling them they're dead
> >>> wrong and
> >>> idiots for believing in any sort of god isn't going to go over well,
> >>> either.
> >>>
> >>> "Debate" doesn't mean slamming the opposite view and getting
> >>> hyperbolically hysterical. *That* is the problem a number of folks
> >>> here
> >>> are having with how The Fool is saying what he's saying.
> >>>
> >>> I'd suggest that he re-think his debating tactics on this matter if
> >>> he
> >>> wants to convert anyone to his point of view on it.
> >>
> >> Well I think it is very generous of The Fool to try and help the
> >> memetically handicapped on the list with their affliction in the face
> >> of a notable lack of gratitude, or even downright hostility.
> >
> > If you seriously think we should be grateful to you both for insulting
> > the intelligence of list members and repeated smug declarations of
> > intolerance toward their beliefs then y'all need to share whatever
> > you're smoking with the rest of us.
> >
> > As Jim so wisely said, the arrogant, condescending attitude you're
> > adopting isn't likely to win you any support.
> >
> > Jon
> >
>
> Is that a 'no' ?
Whatever it was, it was more tactful than a number of the things The Fool
has said.
Then again, on *occasion*, being blunt is what's called for. I just don't
think this is one such occasion.
Julia
working very hard on "tact" for a number of years now -- how'm I doing?
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