----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: Explanation


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Explanation
>
>
> > Dan Minette wrote:
> >
> > > I've noticed a rather interesting asymmetry.  People on the list who
are
> > > religious are expected to regularly read posts that proclaim them
evil,
> > > mentally defective, etc. and let the insults just slide off their
backs.
> >
> > Who expects that?  Is that in the etiquette guidelines: religious
people
> > must let insults slide off their backs.  Has someone posted "Hey,
you're
> > religious, you have to let it slide off your back!!"  I  certainly have
no
> > such expectation.  Further, neither I, nor Sonja (the only two posts in
> > this thread before yours) has ever proclaimed anyone evil (AFAIK) and I
> > would rather not be lumped in with those who do, thanks.
> >
> >
> > > People who are criticized by conservatives like JDG have the right to
be
> > > indignant.
> >
> > ???  John doesn't get indignant?  You must be kidding.
> >
> > >
> > > I have no trouble with anyone deciding to killfile someone, ignore
their
> > > posts, etc.  That's perfectly reasonable.  But, its funny that even
the
> > > religious people expect that they should take regular insults with
good
> > > grace, while less insulting things written by JDG are the grounds for
> > > righteous indignation.
> >
> > This is one of the most ill considered posts I've ever seen you post,
> > Dan.  I have no idea what religion or conservatism have to do with it.
I
> > do know that JDG has referenced Hilter in _several_ posts - is there a
> > greater insult than that?  Have I ever begun a post "Look, punk..."?
> >
>
> I think it should be pointed out that what John does, does not......can
not,
> be construed as justification for anything anyone else does.
>
> I don't think Dan was in any way defending John. It appeared to me he was
> commenting on *reactions* to John. Those are 2 quite different kinds of
> statements.

That's exactly right.

> I also think Doug is acting quite correctly when he attempts to separate
> himself and Sonja from the crowd Dan was pointing out. I would certainly
do
> the same. But I am certain that Doug and Sonja were not the targets of
Dan's
> post.

Certainly not.  I've never had any real trouble with their posting styles.
My post was more on the order of musing about the asymmetry than
complaining.  I even expect me to just accept the accusations of evil to
slide off.

I think part of it is that I don't take the Fool's posts all that
seriously.  In many ways, I think Doug takes JDG's posts seriously.  I have
no problem with him killfiling JDG.  As I said, that's a reasonable
reaction to a poster that upsets you.  The Fool's posts don't really upset
me, and I was thinking of why.

Dan M.


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