In a message dated 11/17/2003 12:35:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Fox News, we distort, you comply.
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> > --- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In
> > regards to CEOs voting republican, perhaps they
> > > just know where their
> > > bread is buttered.
> > >
> > > I doubt Jack Welch could do my job.
> > > Your job maybe, but not Eriks or Dans.
> > > CEOs are not superior versions of mainline humans,
> > > they are simply
> > > specialists performing a specific function.
> > > And outside of their specialty, they are incompetent
> > > in the same way any
> > > other human would be.
> > >
> > > xponent
> > > Not Impressed By Elitist Type Arguments Maru
> > > rob
> >
> > It's not really an elitist type argument.  I remember
> > Michael Wilbon writing about Michael Jordan that what
> > made watching him truly special was that he was better
> > at what he did than anyone else in the world was at
> > what they did.  I don't know that was really the case
> > - although given how great Jordan was, I'm not willing
> > to reject it out of hand.
> >
> > What we're talking about here is relative skill level.
> >  The question is, is someone who is good enough to get
> > to where they are likely to be really, really good at
> > what they do?  Again, look at professional baseball
> > players.  To play in the major leagues you have to be
> > one of the ~1000 best baseball players _in the world_.
> >  And there are tens of millions of people who have at
> > least, at some point in their lives, tried to play
> > baseball.  So out of all of those tens of millions of
> > people, MLB players are in the top _1000_.  That's
> > incredibly good.  Now, outside of baseball, are they
> > likely to be any better at anything (non-athletic)
> > than you or I?  No, of course not.  But to be one of
> > the top, what, one-hundredth of one percent of the
> > people who engage in an activity - think about how
> > gifted you have to be to reach that level.  On the
> > whole, I have noticed, people don't appreciate that
> > sort of skill level outside of their own profession.
> > They look at baseball players and think that looks
> > easy.  Or see the mistake made by a CEO and think any
> > idiot would have known not to do that.  But I don't
> > think so - not even close.
> 
> I don't know that much about CEO's, but I am fairly familiar with the next
> level down.  In the company I worked for, people who got to very high
> levels of the leadership team were very very good at playing company
> politics.  They were not good at making decision to benefit the company.
> But, that wasn't critical, because their bonus did not depend on doing well
> by the shareholders; it depended on how well they played politics.
> 
> We had a good 'ol boy who based his hole corporate strategy on some "inside
> information" that he got from a friend.  The "inside information" was
> basically physically impossible, but he made the decisions that helped cut
> market share from 45% to 28% based on that.
> 
> Another two fellows I know were corporate VPs of New Technology and were
> pure BS artists who knew nothing of technology.
> 
> Its not that I believe that running corporations is easy; its not.  Its
> that I've seen the selection process at large corporations; chatted with
> folks who are up at that level, and their knowledge and ability doesn't
> blow me away.  It seems that the most important skill is not management,
> but playing company politics.
> 
> The obvious exception to this that I've seen are start ups that grow big.
> I knew the man who invented the MWD industry and he impressed me.  The
> feats of someone like Bill Gates or Sam Walmat also 
> impressed me.  But the
> leadership team at my last company didn't.
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Although I am sure that many companies run in exactly the way you describe my own 
experience is with the medical division of GE. It is a tough place to work but success 
in the company is dependent on measurable success (the six sigma stuff). I don't think 
BS flies there
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